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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 04:23 AM
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I have a 2000 Honda Civic Si, Id like to make my suspension a little more better. Can you guys recommend me some suspension components that will make it handle/ride better. I already have Eibach ProKit Springs on the car. Stock Tires/Stock Si Rims.

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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 05:48 AM
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Ditch the stock si tires...the michelins are junk
Buy a comptech rear sway and tie bar combo...damn near one of the best mods I've ever done.
Get some adjustable shocks...AGX's, Koni's, Illuminas...something like that.
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 05:50 AM
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michelins are junk?
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 06:03 AM
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If it handles better, it's not going to ride any better, and vice versa. You sacrifice ride quality for handling.

Buy yourself some Koni Sport ("Yellow") adjustable dampers, and/or a set of Ground Control coilovers if you really want to do anything with it. Anything less is a waste of money.

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XGT-V4s are. Any summer tire is better on dry pavement, and any winter tire is better in snow. For the summer, I replaced mine with inexpensive Kumho Ecsta 711s in 205/50-15, and it was a marked improvement in cornering, braking, and acceleration.
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 06:15 AM
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yea,def go with a new set of shocks,like the koni,or kyb's.That will imrove alot right there.also the falken azeni rt-215's are an excellent summer tire.very sticky.
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 06:21 AM
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i def agree with some of the other's replys.... rag those michelins out and get better tires for sure... u plan to keep a street setup or you plan on putting your car on the track? i only ask based on your suspension question... for street, the eibachs will work but match em with some good adjustable shocks.... what are the spring rates of your shocks? koni yellows are a good match or even those agx's.. both are 5 pt adjustable i believe. def invest in a rear swaybar as another said.. good mod for our naturally understeered fwd cars... i have the tein ss setup and couldnt be happier
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 06:30 AM
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Don't type "more better"..just type "better" ...haha sorry..english class got me..anyways if u want a stiffer ride just get kyb agx ..their cheap and decent...and keep ur springs with it
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 09:30 AM
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great, thanks for the replies. So u guys say that 205-50-15 is the best size? Ill probably get some Falken Ziex.

So New tires/koni shocks here i come.
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 10:53 AM
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I have koni yellow shocks with skunk2 coilovers on my 99si and its the best thing ive ever done for my car, the ride quality is still very good unless you have the dampening high all the time. Do it right get the yellows and skunks or ground- control I have had them both.
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 11:09 AM
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A simple change that will make a drastic difference, sway bars, specifically the rear.

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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 11:18 AM
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i thought the Si's already came with rear sway bars?
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 11:24 AM
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They do, but you can upgrade to larger ones.
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 12:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BrutalDawg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i thought the Si's already came with rear sway bars?</TD></TR></TABLE>
A crappy 13mm one . . .

I prefer to tune suspension with the coil spring rates before touching sway bars. The Eibach Pro-Kit isn't a particularly decent setup to begin with, but it is practical and comfortable.

I'd personally go with linear-rate springs (well, GC coilovers), and increase the front rates a bit, then remove that humongous front sway bar or replace with something softer. I'd increase the rear rates more than the front, and then see what mild rear sway bars are out there; maybe an ITR 22mm bar would be nice. Subframe reinforcement is a must. Alignment, maybe 1/16" toe-out in the front and straight toe in the rear. All of this will get it rotating nicely at the track. Not recommended for the street; it'll ride bumpy and be pretty twitchy, and may eat front tires.

For the street, I'd just leave it alone. What with low speed limits and crappy roads, who needs a better handling daily driver? I'd rather have my DD ride comfortably with soft springs and lots of suspension travel. Maybe a set of Konis but that's all the further I'd go.
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 12:28 PM
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there is also a new Forum on HT dedicated to this:

Suspension Forum
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 01:44 PM
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Get some new tires...falken azenis will work nicely to improve your handling. Koni yellow shocks will also help out your suspension greatly.

do check out the suspension forum, it'll help alot more than this place.

another thing, carefull with the larger rear sway bar, i've heard/seen many posts/threads about people ripping their rear subframe without higher rear spring rates or rear frame supports.
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