i did a search and am not getting the same problem that others have had.

background: 96 rs 145000 miles auto.
new cap and rotor about 1 month ago. oil good, full tank of gas.

so i left work and it died not even five mins later while driving. i pulled off and tried to crank it again. it clicks alot and i can hear the pump on i think. i have a gauge on top of the fuel filter and it still reads 40 psi.

so im wondering if i have a clog in a line or if its the fuel filter thats clogged. but if it was, would the gauge read 0 or still the normal 40 psi?
any help or suggestions would help alot.
my plan is to replace the fuel filter (at my works parking lot) and go from there.

 

anyone?

 

have you checked your chargin system (bad alt. loose belt, loose ground connection)?

 

i dont think its the alt. cause it died while i was driving.
thanks for the fast reply.

 

anyone else got any suggestions.

will replacing the fuel filter work?

 

i know this is probably common sense but did u happen to check the battery for charge?

 

yeah i did.

 

start a troubleshooting process..start by checking to see if you have spark and see if your fuel pump is really pumping gas at the filter and on to the fuel rail...

 

since your getting fuel pressure, thats good. Check your spark.

 

yeah i need to.
i was looking for a quick fix. i guess this is going to be harder than i was thinking.
thanks for the tips.

 

shouldnt be too hard from what it seems

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nst555 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">... i pulled off and tried to crank it again. it clicks alot and i can hear the pump on i think.</TD></TR></TABLE>Sounds like the starter isn't cranking the engine?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Quitripin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">have you checked your chargin system (bad alt. loose belt, loose ground connection)?</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nst555 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont think its the alt. cause it died while i was driving.
thanks for the fast reply. </TD></TR></TABLE>That's exactly what would happen with a bad alternator or loose connections. That would leave you with a depleted battery with enough juice to run the fuelpump but not enough to run the starter.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 5litereater &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i know this is probably common sense but did u happen to check the battery for charge? </TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nst555 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah i did. </TD></TR></TABLE>How did you test it & what was the result?

 

i had my dad try to jump me and it still wouldnt turn over.

the starter works. it makes the clicking noises...not just once but the whole time i try to turn it over.

belts are all tight.

i will be checking the grounds, alt, battery again, and starter again today in about 20 mins.

it sucks cause my work is 20 mins away and i have to keep driving out to check stuff and then try to work on it in the parking lot.

thanks for the suggestions.

 

any more suggestions before i take off?

 

Usually when the starter just clicks, it means that there isn't enough charge in the battery to turn the motor over. I would check the charging system first.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nst555 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i had my dad try to jump me and it still wouldnt turn over.</TD></TR></TABLE>That kinda rules out a depleted battery.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nst555 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i will be checking the grounds, alt, battery again, and starter again today in about 20 mins.</TD></TR></TABLE>Don't forget to check the OTHER end of each big battery cable. Those can be loose/dirty/corroded/whatever... and they're just as important as the clamp on the battery post.

 

how do you know if the charging system is working? Do you have a digital multimeter? It sounds like you have a charging system problem.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JimBlake &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That kinda rules out a depleted battery.

Don't forget to check the OTHER end of each big battery cable. Those can be loose/dirty/corroded/whatever... and they're just as important as the clamp on the battery post.
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Corrorded lines do cause unwanted voltage drop and resistance to the charging system

Just because the belt is tight doesn't rule out the alternator is bad you might want to double check and make sure your charging system is putting and out if it does than it sounds like you have a paristic load that's cause your battery to drain. You might also want to check your battery when you start your car and make sure that you have no less 9.6 voltage during cranking. If 9.6 volts does drop then you have another problem you have a bad battery, battery cell no good or you need to add some water to it. The clicking noise is the relay and stater solenoid. Let us know what your relusts are

 

ok update. i just got back.

tobe safe i changed the plugs and wires. fuel pump is coming on. starting is working. battery working. alt working.

NO SPARK. i did the test and i got no spark.

so now i am looking to replace the dist. and/or the ignition and coil.

thanks for all the help.

 

ok update yet again 2-24-05.

new plugs, wires, and ignition oil.

no spark and i cant really see if the cams are moving.

any suggestions before i get it towed to a shop.

i know if the cams are not moving the timing belt slapped, but i should still be getting a spark.

 

anyone?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nst555 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no spark and i cant really see if the cams are moving.
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i know if the cams are not moving the timing belt slapped, but i should still be getting a spark. </TD></TR></TABLE>Check the timing belt. If the cams aren't turning, the distributor isn't turning either, so you won't get a spark.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nst555 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">... i pulled off and tried to crank it again. it clicks alot...</TD></TR></TABLE>To me, that clicking sounded like the starter solenoid pulling in & out, but the battery doesn't have enough juice to run the starter.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nst555 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">... the starter works. it makes the clicking noises...not just once but the whole time i try to turn it over...</TD></TR></TABLE>Now I'm not so sure what you mean.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nst555 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">... fuel pump is coming on. starting is working. battery working. alt working...</TD></TR></TABLE>
To be honest, it sounds like a lot of confusion about whether the starter is cranking the engine. You will not get spark if the distributor isn't turning. That's true whether it's the starter or timing belt.

Have someone try to start while you watch the engine. Are the accessory pulleys spinning (alternator, PS pump...)?
Then take off the distirbutor cap & try again. Watch for the rotor spinning.

Modified by JimBlake at 7:48 AM 2/25/2005


Modified by JimBlake at 7:49 AM 2/25/2005

 

thanks

the belt drive is moving when i try to start it.

i will try to see if the rotor is moving today.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nst555 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i will try to see if the rotor is moving today. </TD></TR></TABLE>OK... It's easy to take off the oil fill cap & watch the camshaft. But I've heard at least once where the distributor drive coupling broke. In that case the camshaft was turning but the distributor wasn't.

 

got belts, value cover gasket, oil, big *** breaking bar, and no time now.

i got everything ready to change the belts(timing and all) now im just trying to find time to get it done.

tried alittle today. the crank pulley is the worst bolt ever. two grown men (me and my dad) couldnt break it free.

soon i will have more updates.

note to self: pay someone next time to change timing belt.

 

So did you narrow it donw? Is it a broken timing belt? Let us know.