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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 05:58 PM
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Hey ya'll....
A good friend of mine has a 2000 Accord, 6cyl. His tranny sucks hard *****, and I told him that adise from getting it rebuilt and/or replaced, that replacing the tranny fluid would be the only thing to help his current gearbox last longer.

Any recommendations on fluids? Royal Pruple? (tranny fluid)

Thanks in advance. Also, if anyone has a diagram of where to fill and empty the transmission, that would help greatly. If nothing else, I'll tell him to go buy a Haynes Manual.
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Tony
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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You might be a good friend, and tell your good friend, that he might want to call his other good friend the local honda dealer and see if his car is covered under extended warranty. [honda won't honor trans warr if there is purple juice in the trans]
As far as trans fluid type?...... the honda engineers came up with some good stuff called Honda ATF Fluid.
On the top of the trans there will be a 17mm nut on top of the fill plug, on the bottom driverside of the trans . look for a 3/8 " square female socket, to use as the drain plug.
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 06:59 PM
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True story hondadude and it's not just hype about using Honda ATF as opposed to other brands.
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 08:05 PM
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I know for a fact that his car is not covered under warranty. His purchase was both incredibly stupid and incredibly smart, depending on perspective.
He got a 2000 Accord with 70k on it for $6,000. (incredibly smart perspective)
He has no idea about cars, or, more specifically, about the car he bought. (incredibly stupid perspective)

Please sell me on Honda ATF, as I have been sold on RP and Redline for years. (oh, during those years, I happened to race cars a little)

Thanks for the nonchalant sarcasm throughout your post. Unlike most, I'm not some average noob

so, if anyone else has a link or pictures to this specific vehicle's transmission, please post them. If not, then I probably won't perish. I think we have the size of the two openings just about clarified. lmao
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 11:17 PM
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Bump...

I have done some reading on the internet about the Honda ATF.


BUT WHY?!?! Why is it the 'only' thing to use?

Please sell me more on this. anyone.
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 11:47 PM
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because honda says so...

honda says to only use their tranny fluid...i dunno if that's just a way to make moula or if it's got actual brilliance behind it, but that's what honda says...do it...
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 04:51 AM
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I have seen it time and time again. If you use any thing other then honda ATF it can and most likely will affect shift quility. In most cases it will cause the tranny to accutally slip and not want to shift properly. For some reason the transmission and shift solonoids only like the honda stuff. Because of federal law you can us dextron-III as a temp. replacment but the tranny should be flushed out after using it.
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 09:50 AM
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I was just looking at an Amsoil snythetic trans. fluid bottle. It recommends it for all Hondas. How can Amsoil, or anyone else, recommend their product if it is legal for Honda to deny warranty coverage for using it?
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 10:09 AM
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They can recommened it all they want, but you should only use what Honda recommends which is Honda ATF.
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 10:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by georgeda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was just looking at an Amsoil snythetic trans. fluid bottle. It recommends it for all Hondas. How can Amsoil, or anyone else, recommend their product if it is legal for Honda to deny warranty coverage for using it?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Why not ........I don't think all Honda's are still under warranty...mines long gone.
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 10:36 AM
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Look at it this way any company making any product can RECOMMEND it. That is the key word. It means absolutly nothing if it has not been proven on the cars. And in most cases it hasn't
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 04:04 PM
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mobil one full synthetic trans fluid does just fine
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 04:45 PM
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 06:54 PM
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I appreciate your, and everyone's post.

We are using the Honda ATF this coming Sunday in his car.

Regards
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 12:55 PM
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I didn't say warranty......I said EXTENDED warranty
As far as the chemical differences of the trans fluid, honda claims their fluid has a smaller molecule for better lube, and good cleaning properties; honda shift body valves are tight fitting metal to metal and cannot tolerate varnish build up.
The original honda trans fluid used sperm whale oil, [from the whales head] as a lubricant. This whale oil was very popular, in the earlier part of the century for small machines.
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondadude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The original honda trans fluid used sperm whale oil, [from the whales head] as a lubricant. This whale oil was very popular, in the earlier part of the century for small machines. </TD></TR></TABLE>
.....and for lamps.....wait...wtf does this have to do with anything ?
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 07:17 PM
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I see. My friend (Frank...the tank) has no warranty of any sorts. He knows less about cars than I know about ballet. (I know nothing about ballet)
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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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alotawatts? apparently not;[dimmest bulb in the house for sure] zing zing it's flying right over your head. The whale oil has very small molecule lubricating properties, so following along with the history of design and development, [still with the thought train?] understanding the past can help people understand the present and future.
So if the original design used a very small molecule lubricant, and the shift valves are still made the same way, do you think that using a synthetic trans fluid WITH VERY SMALL MOLECULES FOR LUBRICATION makes sense?
Maybe you should get a 6th grader to read this to you.
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 06:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondadude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
So if the original design used a very small molecule lubricant, and the shift valves are still made the same way, do you think that using a synthetic trans fluid WITH VERY SMALL MOLECULES FOR LUBRICATION makes sense?
Maybe you should get a 6th grader to read this to you.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Maybe you should......... because I never said anything about synthetics and never use them. Sorry to dis your scientific-history lesson. That is interesting. My bad. No intent to make this thread lower than Whale ****........dude ! Fact is...I agreed in my first post with your first post about Honda ATF.



Modified by alotawatts at 7:54 PM 2/20/2005
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 09:57 AM
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Any honda technician will tell you to use Honda ATF in the auto trannies. Honda auto trannies suck ***** in the first place and if you want to use some other fluid there...that's up to you. It's not my car.
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 12:30 PM
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I've used the Mobil synthetic in my tranny and I could tell the difference. Honda fluid is the way to go.

Also, I know a few mechanics that work at the Mobil Research and Development center near me and they actually buy the honda stuff for the fleet cars because they have found it works better than Mobil.
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