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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 04:52 PM
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i think i need new rings soon, motor only has 3k on it and it burns oil like crazy! i dont think the rings seated correctly because i was running real rich from the start. how much does it cost around to replace the rings and get the cylinder walls done again???


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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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Who built your motor for you before? I would go back to them and see whats up. Is the motor fully built?
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 05:00 PM
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no its just a rebuilt oem gsr, im just trying to see how much it would cost before i go do a leakdown test. someone let me know the price range so i dont get ripped,
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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you will be lucky if those rings didn't tear up he cylider walls. You could be looking at boring, maybe even resleaving, oversize pistons and new rings. Your oil control ring might of been installed fucked up that's what messed up your engine.

It will cost you a pretty penny if simple honning won't fix it.

Did you rebuild it or someone else did?

First make sure it's rings.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 05:04 PM
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no i didnt rebuild it, i bought it rebuilt, how do i make shure its the rings???
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 05:07 PM
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do a compression test. If it's low, drop few drops of oil in there and see if numbers go back to normal. If they do then it's your rings. If they don't it could be headgasket or bad valve.
You could also take of the hose that goes from the valve cover to intake. Run the car if you see oil coming out of there in some amount, it means you are getting massive blow by (prolly bad rings).

Why don't you take it back to the place that rebuild the engine.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 05:17 PM
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thanks i will do that, i cant because i bought it rebuilt and dont know where it was built. this sucks!!! hahaha whatever. this is such an expensive hobby hehehe
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 07:31 PM
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okay i just checked my compression today and got these numbers:
170, 150, 150, 170

sound good? i was a lil low on oil, it was barely on the dip stick, and my battery is about to die!!! if that affects anything.
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 09:01 PM
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bump for me
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 10:49 PM
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bump again, ive checked other numbers and there nothing like mines, 20 psi difference
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 09:13 PM
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anyone know if this is alrights?
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 09:23 PM
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number is not great

its basicly at the limit on the diffence of the psi


seem like theres something wrong with #2 and #3
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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yeah looks like your rings are fucked. What motor is it, compression numbers are low all across the board but cylinders #2, #3 are totaly messed up. It should be like between 190-210 (depending on the motor).

Did you do the oil trick?

Either way something is defently wrong, bad rings, bad rebuild, bad headgasket, warped something, sticking valve. Not good.
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 04:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EKtypeRhaTcH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i cant because i bought it rebuilt and dont know where it was built. </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 08:44 PM
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yea i know....
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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 08:45 PM
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its a gsr motor basically with a gsr head...so bad huh?? i guess i need a leak down test.
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Old Feb 19, 2005 | 05:02 AM
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i would change the valve seats also ... those are well know to give u problems . rings for my lx ran me about 50 if i'm not mistaken ... if u plan on doing yourself .. it's rather simple just make sure u have the trusty helms with you
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Old Feb 19, 2005 | 06:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gregcivic92lx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i would change the valve seats also ... those are well know to give u problems . rings for my lx ran me about 50 if i'm not mistaken ... if u plan on doing yourself .. it's rather simple just make sure u have the trusty helms with you</TD></TR></TABLE>

You cant change the valve seats.......they are part of the head.
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Old Feb 19, 2005 | 07:07 AM
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check the compression of each cylender. then add a drop of oil to each cylender if the compression goes up, then u have a bad ring. make sure when u do this that the engine is warm, remove the fuel pump fuse, then crankit.
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Old Feb 19, 2005 | 05:31 PM
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thanks guys, it does look like i have bad rings, that would explain all the oil im burning. how long can i drive like this? there is 3k on the motor now and im broke! so i have to save up for it. i use my car mainly to go to school.
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 01:02 AM
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anyone know how long i can drive like this safetly? what would happen?
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 04:32 AM
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that's terrible compression.

my LS has 180, 181, 180, 181

And as for driving it, you can drive it till it blows. The more you drive it the more wear your going to put on it and the more expensive it will be later.
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 12:20 PM
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damn that sounds bad hehehe shiet. i have no other choice i hope nothing bad happens while im going to school.
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 03:28 PM
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good luck, i wouldn't rev past 4k if i were you.
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 05:40 PM
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yea i know, sucks cuz i have a b16 tranny hahaha
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