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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 08:00 PM
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Default How much will stock LS B18B rods take with ARP Rod bolts?

My question is exactly that.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 01:04 AM
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Not sure exactly but I have seen LS and B20 motors take 9K with no problems!
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 12:10 PM
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Thats a pretty vague question...Boost? Rpms? What?
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 01:22 PM
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I take my LSVTEC to 8k with those rods and bolts.
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 02:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by C-speed Racing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thats a pretty vague question...Boost? Rpms? What?</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 03:22 PM
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I would guess to say rpms! As for rods, I believe they are good for 300whp, anything above that should be stronger.
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 04:29 PM
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Im building a NA LS Vtec. Its going to have a revlimiter or no more than 8800. Im using the skunk2 stage 1 cams. Im looking to make around 190 so WHP. Sparkracing.com sells forged I beam and H beam rods for like $220 with 9mm ARP rod bolts. What should I do. I dont want to buy the forged rods if I dont have to. But then again I dont want to have to worry if the stock will hold.
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 05:40 PM
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Mine have see 8.5k every pass at 11.5:1 CR. Now I hope they are ready for more.
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 07:16 PM
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Is yours a daily driver? Im using type R pistons with a GSR head should be around 11:1. I just dont want to snap a rod and have complete engine failure.
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 08:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dohcter g &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Mine have see 8.5k every pass at 11.5:1 CR. Now I hope they are ready for more. </TD></TR></TABLE>

What about your rod bolts? Stock or ARP or other?
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 08:29 PM
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Anyone know how much the Skunk2 stage 1s make power to? I dont think there that much more agressive than the CTR cams. There was a dyno of a LS vtec setup similar to mine and didnt make power after 7800. So I dont think ill be revving over 8400 or so. How reliable would the stock rods be then ?(with arp bolts) Thanks J
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 08:36 PM
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just fine, thats about stock redline right
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 08:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dohcter g &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Mine have see 8.5k every pass at 11.5:1 CR. Now I hope they are ready for more. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Do you have any 1/4 mile times?
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 08:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by envision2teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just fine, thats about stock redline right</TD></TR></TABLE>

stock redline on a ls block is like 6700, but i have taken my old motor to 8-8.5 many times a week. also i forgot to shift one time and i don't have a rev limitor it went for real to 9700 or maybe alittle higher, it sounded so bad and i was so scared but nothing happened. however i do not expect anyone to repeat this stupid almost deadly mistake.

oh yeah all stock bottom end
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JSPECEX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

stock redline on a ls block is like 6700, but i have taken my old motor to 8-8.5 many times a week. also i forgot to shift one time and i don't have a rev limitor it went for real to 9700 or maybe alittle higher, it sounded so bad and i was so scared but nothing happened. however i do not expect anyone to repeat this stupid almost deadly mistake.

oh yeah all stock bottom end </TD></TR></TABLE>


Fuel cutoff is 7200.
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 09:14 PM
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you are right i was guessing but i knew it wasn't that much higher then 7000
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 09:24 AM
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anyone else?
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Old Mar 3, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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No one will be able to give you a definitive answer on this. Only "i used LS rods and took it to xxx rpm and i was making xxx hp."

I would PERSONALLY not go past 240-250whp NA or otherwise with them in, and this is assuming you HAVE arp rod bolts.
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Old Mar 3, 2005 | 09:37 PM
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Default Re: How much will stock LS B18B rods take with ARP Rod bolts? (j87w)

people tend to forget that honda's are over-engineered..... i take my ls rods with arp rod bolts to 8500-9k daily....
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Old Mar 3, 2005 | 09:39 PM
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Alright im going to order the ARP bolts and have them installed then. Im looking to make between 190-210 WHP on my LSVTEC. So I should be good and no more than 9k rpms.
Thanks alot Jay
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 06:43 AM
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my ls rods with arp rod bolts held 10000 rpm all motor 200whp and aprox 370whp at 8000rpm with 200 shot, ended up breaking a rod with the nitrous though.
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 11:28 PM
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Default Re: How much will stock LS B18B rods take with ARP Rod bolts? (shant)

Well I think the LS rods are rated for 250 hp, any higher and aftermarket is recommended
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Old Mar 5, 2005 | 07:43 AM
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Were these in daily drivers and how long did they last like that?
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Old Mar 5, 2005 | 09:30 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by j87w &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Were these in daily drivers and how long did they last like that?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes I remember reading an article a long time ago, Im talking 97 - 98, about how you can use LS rods in a D-series motor b/c they are stronger than the D-series rods and are recommended for turbo applications that do not exceed 250whp.

I know a few ppl that tried this and never had a problem. The Rods are not he weak link in the LS/B20 Bottom end, its the rod bolts!
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