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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 04:37 PM
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the car is a 95 ex.
did a compression test the other day and forgot to unplug distributor and now car wont start. its turning over but wont fire.

getting fuel because i can smell it on the plugs. new plugs, distributor, and wires. getting spark(did spark test). tested coil and icm(with multimeter)...everything seems fine.

checked all fuses...

PLEASE HELP!!

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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 06:20 PM
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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so your now getting spark fuel and air but it still wont fire?
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 07:24 PM
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what else did you unplug when doing the test?did you get the firing order wrong when reinstalling the plug wires?did the car run prior to this?any codes?
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 07:26 PM
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 07:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TeamNextGenChris &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what else did you unplug when doing the test?did you get the firing order wrong when reinstalling the plug wires?did the car run prior to this?any codes?
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i didnt unplug anything....just the spark plug wires.
firing order is correct...checked my helms
no codes
thanks for the response

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHCD16y8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so your now getting spark fuel and air but it still wont fire?</TD></TR></TABLE>

nope

im trying new plugs right now but im letting it air out cause it flooded earlier
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 07:44 PM
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Did you do the compression test before or after the dizzy swap? And has it started at all since you've swapped the distributor?
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 07:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jlacoy82 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Did you do the compression test before or after the dizzy swap? And has it started at all since you've swapped the distributor?</TD></TR></TABLE>

before the swap and no it hasnt started
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 08:00 PM
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we just tried new plugs and it sounded like it almost caught...it was a "poof" then nothing. HELP ME!!!!!!!!!
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Your rotor is probably 180 degrees off. Pull the dizzy off, spin the rotor 180 degrees, re-install. Hopefully thats it.
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 08:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jlacoy82 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your rotor is probably 180 degrees off. Pull the dizzy off, spin the rotor 180 degrees, re-install. Hopefully thats it.</TD></TR></TABLE>this sounds very likely.if you look at the key in the distributor,and the slot in the cam,they are offset to one side-make sure these are lined up correctly.also check your cam timing if the distributor isn't off.just to verify,this motor has ran before,just not since the distributor swap?
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 08:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jlacoy82 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your rotor is probably 180 degrees off. Pull the dizzy off, spin the rotor 180 degrees, re-install. Hopefully thats it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Damn this is not a GM or Ford, you can't put in the distributor 180 degrees off.

Just look at the dizzy and you will realize it. It only goes in one way.
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 08:19 PM
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Sorry, I've just read this as being a problem several other times. I've never pulled my dizzy myself. I know where the rotor is mounted is slotted so the rotor only installs one way, but wasnt sure about the cam.

Bah, nevermind, its possible. The end of the cam just has a slot across the entire thing, making it possible to install the distributor 180 degrees out of whack.
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 08:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ABK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Damn this is not a GM or Ford, you can't put in the distributor 180 degrees off.

Just look at the dizzy and you will realize it. It only goes in one way.</TD></TR></TABLE>
it IS possible.even though the keyway is slightly offset,you can do it.it will be a little harder to slide the ditributor all the way in,but if you don't know any better you wouldn't notice it.
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 09:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TeamNextGenChris &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it IS possible.even though the keyway is slightly offset,you can do it.it will be a little harder to slide the ditributor all the way in,but if you don't know any better you wouldn't notice it.
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i tried putting in the dizzy the other way but it wont go in all the way. the key on the end of the dizzy is offset so i dont think u can put it in backwards.

is there a possibility that it wont start if the timing belt jumped a tooth????

im still gettin spark and fuel but no fire.....this is stressin me out.

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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 10:17 PM
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 10:31 PM
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do you have a reason why you think the belt skipped?? mabye you should take a look at the belt for ***** and giggles
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 01:28 AM
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one more question before i go to sleep:

how do i adjust the timing belt if it is off? do i just loosen the belt tensioner, line up the crank pulley and cam gear and tighten? what's the 3 teeth method?

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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 01:38 AM
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what motor is it??!!?? u say it is a ex... d16z6....?????? well.... maybe un plug batt and retry....

if u sit in the car and turn key to the on position do u hear the fuel pump priming??!!?? also..... do u have any friends with the same car..... grab their dizzy and see if that will work.

last mut not liest... just take off the valve cover and the timing top cover..... crank the engine counter clock wise untill top dead center. if it is a z6.... timing mark in the 7 o'clock position should lign up to the mark on cam gear.. and white mark on the pully should lign up with the arrow on the lower timing belt cover.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 01:40 AM
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 01:43 AM
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edited my post.. if question aim me cueballsi


What was your compression ??!!??
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 01:50 AM
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anyone else?
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 08:29 AM
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 09:19 AM
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ttt....cause its my car
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