So it always seems that these darn things fight the whole way when removing even though they are covered in anti-seize. Regardless, the heat seems to lock them up solid. On race cars only, do most people just not put them back on? my understanding is they only help to keep the rotor on the hub when changing pads, etc...

What if you just brought a set of screws and when do a brake job put them in and when done remove them?

Any opinions?

 

I don't use them on my street/HPDE car. My dad left a similar item off of his rotors on his 328i.

Toss 'em.

 

I use them because it annoys me when I take off my wheels and the rotor is loose and wobling around.

 

I haven't ever used them on the CRX. Brakes on the CRX are a big enough pain in my *** that rotor screws are just one more thing to worry about.

 

I took them off my race car and street car. Too me it is more of a pain in the *** too get them out then to worry about the rotor wobbling a bit.

 

Impact driver makes quick work of them. I anti-seize them and replace them periodically.... I leave them in always

 

you should always use them because when you install the rotor the hub and the rotor should be clean of and dirt in order for the rotor to sit flat on the hub, if you dont use the screws when the wheel is pulled off dirt could fall in between the hub and the rotor and then when the wheel is torqued back on the rotor will wobble and give the feeling of a warped rotor

 

throw it away! It is PITA. THe only reason Honda and other manufacturer use them is to hold the rotor in place when in assembly line.

 

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I was told something similar by a Honda mechanic who also posts on H-T. The screws help maintain the rotor hubcentric.

 

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Probably fine to use them only during changes BUT, are you maybe just over tightening them for their use? They certainly don't need much torque on them when you put them back in as the rim (most designs at least it would seem) should keep it from ever backing completely out ... at least if yours are like mine. The upside to them that I see is that if you don't have the pad clips (if the GSR uses them), then it keeps a flopping rotor from knocking a pad out before buttoning everything up (which will lead to a bent and useless pad) or down as the case may be.

 

If I remember correcly the torque for these screws are only 7 ft lb?

 

I think there was a 3 or 4 page post about this a while back. The final answer: some say yes and some say no, both have good arguments. So, do whatever you want.

 

I would prefer to use them, but my problems with them have been numerous:

A bitch to get out

Back out when torqued at torque spec with no anti-seize

A bitch to get out when over-torqued so the ******* will stay in

Back out when overtorqued with anti-seize

This is under HPDE conditions. I give up on those things. They don't want to stay in my cars and I don't want them either, so they can go to hell.

 

No rotor screws here.

 

I used to do this and even with anti-seize one of those buggers got stuck in one of my front hubs and I had to force it out which stripped the threads in the hub. Now I'm trying the 'only use them when swapping rotors until you get everythinge else bolted back down' plan
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Use a bigger hammer on your impact driver. 4lb sledge, if not bigger.

 

it wasn't that. The messed up one would turn and came halfway out and then got stuck and that's where I had to force it. Ball peen + Husky Impact = eough force

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Use a bigger hammer on your impact driver. 4lb sledge, if not bigger.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

I still have one screw that I need to back out with the easy out because the head broke off while changing a tire. After reading this thread, I think I'll just leave it out.

 

took mine out. too much of a pain in the ***, i change my rotors too often to put up with it.
saves weight also

 

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It's rotating, unsprung weight too. It's golden weight savings!

Just kidding. I hadn't seen a rotor screw topic yet, it was interesting to me to see how the responses ended up.

I think a nice big YMMV would cap it off well.

-Chris

 

just say no to captive rotors.

 

you sould use it all the time . your rotor will shake when you brake

 

Just say no to pad knock back. Screw your rotors!

 

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umm how did you figure that? Your lugs are what holds it on, these little tiny screws just hold it in place when the wheel is off.

 

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umm how did you figure that? Your lugs are what holds it on, these little tiny screws just hold it in place when the wheel is off. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Even w/ the screws in, the rotor still shifts around under the wheels.