stock block
spoon gasket
5 angle valve job
omnipower springs, ret.
toda spec b's
skunk 2 manifold
jdm itr throttle body
vtec crossover at 7000 rpm!(car actually wants like 7100 or 7200 but have no way to set it that high...
made 172.1 hp and 111.1 tq

 

nice numbers for a b16

 

nice numbers whats your redline?is that with pr3 pistons?

 

you said the vtec cross over is 7000 rpms!!!

am i missing something!

 

wow, all that and it only makes 10 wheel tq more then stock, this is why i disliked my old B16, nice HP figures though. BTW why did you make the VTEC corssover so damn high? I really dont see the point in changing it from its stock x-over point with those mods.

 

stock bottom end...we dynoed without vtec to 7000 then set vtec at 3000 and made a pull...graphs didnt cross til then...so...vtec at 7000...will have graph online soon!!!...my tuner said he's never seen a vtec change that high before....

 

yea neither had i hence my question. what compression?

 

wow nice HP but such poor TQ

 

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toda spec b cam like high vtec crossover..that why

 

have head milled .020 and spoon headgasket...thats all

 

Vtec crossover at 7K?????? Something doesnt sound right here.

Is your B16 USDM or JDM? With a Spoon HG and .020 mill, his static compression should be around 10.7:1(w/ PR3's) or 10.9:1(w/ P30's).

 

 

it wasnt stated but this was done w/ stock exhaust manifold. 171 is very good and for the record most b16's stock make 140's . with a header id guess he could gain 5+whp. nice setup .

 

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Most stock B16's put down between 130 to 135 whp!

I'd like to see the dyno graph on this one, b/c everything just sounds too weird. Vtec crossover at 7K?????? You would have a drop in power from 5K to 7K. 171 whp on stock exhaust manifold? Do you have an exhaust?

 

i have a 2 1/4 exhaust with a 5 zigen fireball can on the end...stock ex. manifold...1st gen jdm b16...dyno graph really has no dips...try to have it up soon

 

Thats an anomoly if i've ever seen one....

 

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Most stock B16's put down between 130 to 135 whp!

I'd like to see the dyno graph on this one, b/c everything just sounds too weird. Vtec crossover at 7K?????? You would have a drop in power from 5K to 7K. 171 whp on stock exhaust manifold? Do you have an exhaust?</TD></TR></TABLE>

the primary lobes are pretty big on the toda b's and can support power on a b16 to higher than most cams. trust me if the car stoped making power at 5500 than that would of been his crossover point. ive yet to see the dyno chart myself but i know the tuner and he is capable of finding the crossing point of the torque curves

 

If you were to add more compression you could lower that vtec point. Since the compression is fairly low, the cams are big enough that they bog and don't climb...thats why it's set so high.

 

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Come on man, not raise the vtec point in a mild compression 1.6 liter motor with good sized cams?? You really think that the .6 has the torque, displacement or the compression to turn a Toda B at 5,500? If your theory were true, then why would Honda set the b16b crossover at 6? Maybe you outta do a little more research into the b16

 

very nice

 

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Come on man, not raise the vtec point in a mild compression 1.6 liter motor with good sized cams?? You really think that the .6 has the torque, displacement or the compression to turn a Toda B at 5,500? If your theory were true, then why would Honda set the b16b crossover at 6? Maybe you outta do a little more research into the b16 </TD></TR></TABLE>

Good point but 7K seems high to me! Toda B's are awesome cams but I have never seen them set to crossover at 7K even on a B16. However every motor is different.

He must have a really good tuner b/c 172 whp is really good for a B16 with stock exhaust manifold. What kind of fuel management? Where does the power peak? And what is the toque at hp peak?

 

all he has is a chiped ecm and vafc2

 

peak power is at redline...torque at 6300

 

What kind of dyno was that on? I have a 1st gen b16a with the following:
AEM CAI,Spoon T-body,ITR INtake manifold,DC 4-1 header,Tanabe Catback,Skunk2 STage 2,Portnpolish,3angle valve job,fuel regulator,apex vafc and mugen headgasket. I put down 174hp and 113tq on a dynopak dyno.

 

nice numbers bro , good to see a fellow tampa guy represent all mota


dynoed @ coastal?




Modified by EF CRx_N_motion at 9:16 PM 2/13/2005