...i have an 01 S2000 2.0 ..but want that 2.2 torque ...what will i have to upgrade to do so? ...i know it will cost money, just need to find out what i need to upgrade ...and will i still be able to keep my 9000rpm's??

 

Check out Inline Pro's 2.5 stroker kit at http://www.inlinepro.com. More bang for the buck I think.....

 

If your gonna up grade, might as well go 2.5.

 

it would be cool to start with the AP2's 2.2 and bore that. Never thought of realy doing internals to my car yet, but now it gives me something to dream about lol

 

at first you will not rev to 9K because of the bigger stroke. I personnally am waiting to see if the guy on here with the 2.5 kit can get that baby to 9k again. I think he is at 8300 right now.

 

We just put a 2.2 in a 01 s2k this week and we are running the 04 ecu for now. Next week im goin to go to the dyno with the pre 04 ecu and see what it does. I have talked to a few guys that have done this already and they said that the 2.2 with the pre 04 ecu makes power til about 8300-8500. The scoop at honda on the 2.2 is that they made the 8000 limit because they didnt want the owners that drive the car the way it should be driven to come back to the dealer a week after the bought it with a blown motor. the motor will take 9k all day! I just need to find a find away to make power that high. i did alittle research on the cams for both motors and from i found they are both the same. i couldnt find anything saying they were different but who knows? so ill keep ya posted on what happens on the dyno.

hardness- just like any other honda swap. the fuel line to the rail is different and a few other minor things i dont remeber now.

 

Thats sweet, good info

 

...anyone know of a local shop (in los angeles) that would do a good job doing the swap?

 

the 2.5L stroker can rev up to 9k but it's not safe... therefore he only revs it to around 8300 or so.... he is currently in the process of purchasing an ems so he can get it tuned and be able to rev it up to 9k... .

 

so i would be able to hit 9k again with the 2.5 stroker but would only be recommended with an ems?

 

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i dont think the 2.5 is worth it my .02

if your goin to rev the 2.2 i would for sure build the head. the top of the valves will break off there not good at all! id get a full Ferrera or toda head package! that way you can have at it. that seems to be the weak part of the motor. hint hint

 

Why in the hell would you want to rev the 2.2 liter motor to 9K rpm if it's not safe?

Are you guys rich and just don't give a damn?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ITRbroham &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why in the hell would you want to rev the 2.2 liter motor to 9K rpm if it's not safe?

Are you guys rich and just don't give a damn?</TD></TR></TABLE>

because its amazing!!!! who wouldnt want to rev to 9 if you could and make about 20 more hp.

 

I just checked out the inlinepro site, it looks like the increased piston speed on the 2.5l kills high rpm power which makes sense considering that the 2.2l motor revs lower for the same reason. That 2.5l kit could be a bad *** setup with some itb's, a little headwork and big cams and an ems, 300whp on street s2000, the sound of that motor would be sick.


Modified by matz03 at 5:07 PM 2/12/2005

 

yes it would^^

 

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i totally agree

 

no one mentioned the toda 2.2 stroker kit

 

or the feels stroker... and i think comptech is in the process of making a stroker kit also

 

...so all in all, what would i need to build this bad *** set up? ...itb's?? please specify ..headwork..port/polish head? ..big cams..from who? ..ems, from AEM of course....an all motor 300hp S2000 sounds sweeeeeet!! ...i know its going to be some good cheese, but if its worth it ....

 

300hp or 300whp? 300hp is attainable with a stroker kit, bolt on's, cam's, itb's...as for 300whp, we're talking alot more

 

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because its amazing!!!! who wouldnt want to rev to 9 if you could and make about 20 more hp.</TD></TR></TABLE>

At the expense of damaging the bottom end having to replace the shortblock?

I think not.

F20C shortblocks are not cheap.

Either make the power safely at a lower RPM or find another way to make more power.

 

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At the expense of damaging the bottom end having to replace the shortblock?

I think not.

F20C shortblocks are not cheap.

Either make the power safely at a lower RPM or find another way to make more power.</TD></TR></TABLE>

nothing will happen to the bottom end. there making flippen 500hp with the stock bottom send your tellin me it wont take afew more hp N/A???????????

 

We also have to understand that there isn't always a need to rev to 9k, the stock 2.2l peaks at 8k or so and then the power starts to drop off after that, a 2.5l would peak at even lower and there would be no need to rev that setup to even 8k. you would need more than just an ems to tune a stroked motor to make morepower past the original peak power rpm, i.e. cams, intake and exhaust flow,e

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by matz03 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We also have to understand that there isn't always a need to rev to 9k, the stock 2.2l peaks at 8k or so and then the power starts to drop off after that, a 2.5l would peak at even lower and there would be no need to rev that setup to even 8k. you would need more than just an ems to tune a stroked motor to make morepower past the original peak power rpm, i.e. cams, intake and exhaust flow,e</TD></TR></TABLE>

the only reason our car taper off towards the top is becuase the honda tuned the air/fuel mixture up top very rich.... all you need to do is lean it out and you gain the power back... it's very simple.... with proper tuning you want to get as many revs as possible....

think about formula 1 engines.... they are technically rather small engines.. yet they rev up to 18k rpms... therefor they make huge amounts of power...

 

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nothing will happen to the bottom end. there making flippen 500hp with the stock bottom send your tellin me it wont take afew more hp N/A???????????</TD></TR></TABLE>

What in the hell are you talking about?

Why is a 500 hp F20C with a stock bottom end even pertinent to this discussion? Obviously it's has some type of forced induction. I was refering to the topic at hand in which it really wouldn't be safe to rev a N/A stroked F20C or F22C to or above 9k rpm just so you can gain a few more horsepower.

I never said a stroked N/A motor wouldn't make more power at a certain RPM, it would. But the trade-off which is potential damage to the bottom end components as a result of revving it over or above 9k rpm is just not worth it unless you have boatloads of cash.

Why is this so hard to comprehend?