Hi guys just need some info before i purchase a bunch of stuff that wouldnt work. I dont do autocross i dont drift i just want a tight suspension so i can street race and highway race i was planning to get KYB AGX shocks Ground Control coilovers Suspension Techniques sway bars and an ebay 4 or 5 piece Strut tower bar kit. I just want your opinon on this if you guys can leave me some feedback i was planning to just get the front sway bar from suspension techniques after i did some research on the rear i think 19mm is too small maybe i should get an itr rear sway bar? let me know guys thanks for your replies

 

anyone?

 

Your thread title "Best suspension setup" is misleading. I could name a $50K setup that would be great.

Based on the examples you gave, why don't you try this out:

1. Integra Type R 22mm rear sway bar with the BSQ/Beaks subframe mounting kit
http://www.ahmotor.com has the sway bar kit and required materials for $104
Honda-tech user BSQ has his subframe mounting kit for $20 shipped

2. KYB AGX (adjustable gas shocks) and some sort of lowering springs (such as Neuspeed, Eibach, Sprint, etc....most reputable companies are fine)
Last time I checked KYB AGX shocks were $320 shipped
Most springs from reputable companies are about $150+

NOTE: You could go with coilovers if you wanted. Most people are very happy with Ground Controls, but I have never been fond of the threaded sleeve/coil spring setup. It's not a REAL coilover system (as they are VERY expensive). And how often are you really going to change the height? Your alignment should be realigned every time you do, plus with all the road wear and tear, the locking collars get harder and harder to turn each time. You think it'll take a few minutes to change the height. But after a month of driving, all that road grime on the sleeve will make a 10 minute job into a 2 hour job.

3. Front upper and rear upper strut tower bars (most are fine, try to stay away from DC Sports)

4. Rear lower tie bar isn't really necessary, I haven't found it to be.

That will give you an excellent suspension setup for a VERY good price.

 

That's true that you don't really change the ride heigh much. Coilovers are great, though, because you can set your initial height to whatever you want. My coilovers are very to adjust also, even after months before being touched, they still easily spin up and down.

 

I wanted to add some more to my post.

The Integra's front sway bar is actually very thick. If you didn't know, having the thickest bar isn't always the best. What you want to do is have a neutral handling car (to simulate a 50/50 weight distribution). I say simulate, because the weight can never actually be 50/50 in our cars. However, by modifying the stiffness of each end of the car, we can simulate the handling of one (to an extent).

The ITR's rear sway bar is 22mm, which, if added to any Integra, gives it a very good balance. In some cases (if you're not careful, i.e.: throttle lift in a turn), your car will actually oversteer similar to a RWD car.

This is actually want you want to achieve. Oversteer is better than understeer, as you can control the car somewhat in an oversteer. Understeer in a turn, and the only thing you can do is slow down, netting a slower time around the track/turn.

I added this to the post because the original poster mentioned Suspension Tech sway bars. They are very expensive, and in my experience (with friend's cars), do not perform better than a stock Integra front bar and an ITR rear bar setup.

 

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Yeah, true. This has happened to me with stock suspension a few times. But only in really tight turns.

My opinion is that because of understeer and plowing into corners, that a tighter suspension up front with a softer one in the rear helps with high speed cornering and keeps the rear planted. Somewhat like being on rails effect. This is of course with a lowered vehicle which has a lower center of gravity.

An upgraded swaybar is a good idea to reduce roll, just match the damping of the shocks to it.

 

I have Tein RA coilovers and Skunk2 front and rear strut bars. The car handles like it's on rails. It's really quite amazing. The only other thing I might consider is a comptech sway bar kit. An LSD would be the nicest addition, but I'm not going to go that far.

 

skunk2 n tokiko suspention, all u need...

 

i have tanabe springs on tokico blue's, with tanabe lower ties, and it handles well for a daily driver... but of course my touge lovin' a$$ wants better handling

 

okay...this is bottom line for me...get either the ground controls or skunk2 adjustables...because im assuming you have your mind stuck on adjustables...and tokico illuminas or the NEW kyb agx's....DO NOT buy the older models...there are some companies out there still selling older models. Sway bars and strut bars...get the Carbing front tower bar....LM racing Z bar (c-pillar bar and rear tower bar connected by an addition diagonal bar) &lt;-----This IS THE ****...i was very impressed the difference it made and it looks awesome. Also get the JDM type-r sway bars to go with it. Im not sure about the difference between the JDM and USDM FRONT sway bar but i DO know that the JDM tpye-r REAR sway bar is slightly thicker than the USDM type-r REAR sway bar.....i believe by 1 millimeter....u might as well get the thicker one cause they're almost exacly the same price as the thinner USDM one. I hope this helps. Good luck!!

 

I still say Tein RAs and Skunk2 front and rear strut bars But that other setup seems like it would be nice, too

 

ive got koni yellow adj shock and GC coilovers and im loving it such a big diff between springs

 

tein

 

i say you get an itr sway bar, ground control coilovers (with your chosen spring rate), and koni yellows. your ride quality is dictated by the shock, and I think they are the best shocks out there, plus they are externally adjustable. just my opinion though

 

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WOW the feedback from you guys are awesome ok here's the thing the only reason i want coilovers is because i dropped my girlfriend's civic with h&r springs (1.75 f/1.50 r) the car looks unleveled the front looks like it's higher than the rear and does not look right that is why i want to get coilover so i can adjust it to my liking and im not sure what rims size im going to go with either 15" or 16" im probaly going to go with the itr sway bars kyb agx shocks i just dont know what springs to go with either ground control which i know for a fact im not going to adjust it ever or regular lowering springs i need you guys to tell me what spring has a good drop thanks guy please keep the responces coming thanks again oh and for the title im looking for a inexpensive best bang for your buck kind of suspension

 

I got Tanabe GF210 drop springs with Tokico 5way adj. i like the way it sits and the handling of it.......

 

I just did the GS-R to Type-R Conversion and I love it!

 

Hello everyone. This is my first official post... I am working on building up my awesome-yet-heavy 4-door '98 ls. I've added a cold-air intake by Tenzo R, and just purchased a GReddy Sports Pro II catback, and DC headers. Haven't installed them yet, 'cause as of yesterday, I kinda crashed... Nothing serious, but anyway. here's the question. I need to replace the suspension on it, since one of my shocks is cracked. I got the $$$ to put into it now, so what should I go with? Buy a coilover system, or just purchase the parts individually? -ekzrated

 

are you trying to steal his thread?

 

I had some GABs on my SI and loved um and that was with some spoon strut bars!!! now on my GSR I have the password JDM struts. JDM R 23mm rear sway bar with BEAKS and i have another set of GABs coming for my DC2. I can't wait! they are a little stiff for the street but handling is UNBELIEVABLE. Many Tein owners were amazed by my GABs

 

Best suspension My first choice would be Tien and second would be Tokico...affordable and still good.

 

if u have big bucks hit Zeal or Omnipower if none, get GC coilover and Koni yellows + ITR sway bar for best buck..

 

where do u guys usually find the itr sway bars at that are actually legit and not some knock off? alright iv heard the 23mm gives some actual over steer because its so thick and the 22mm is perfect. true? thanks

 

what do you guys think about the tein damper kit? is it overrated for its price?
my friends with s2k and rsx got tein suspension with the edfc. seems to be a really nice system