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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 07:09 PM
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i here that the hotrod car ran 8.30s and the pro fwd car ran 9s is this so????
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 09:06 PM
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 11:44 PM
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I heard Ron went 8.60 on the first pass, and 8.30 on the second, lifting on the top of the second.
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 05:52 AM
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Steve Bothwell is one hell of a dude... thats just crazy, they got a lot up their sleeves this year i assume
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 05:53 AM
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Does anyone happen to know who's driving Bothwell's PFWD car?
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 07:43 AM
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8.2s &8.3s at 140 mph??????? small turbo & clutch did not slow him down
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 08:15 AM
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8.2's & 8.3's did'nt slow him down?
I saw that car run a 7.8's while lifting at the top end last year.
How do you figure the rule changes have'nt slowed them down?
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 10:04 AM
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yes it slow him down but that's just the first few pass they will pic it up
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 07:21 PM
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Anyone else think it is lame to have banned slipper style clutches?? This is a Pro class, but it seems that they have to abide by a sportsman type or rule. Was it a cost thing? If that is so, why not get rid of the Tilton Carbon/Carbon??? That thing is somewhere in the neighborhood of three or four grand I believe. It just sux to make a team that works harder come down to a lower level and wait for others to catch up.
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 08:08 PM
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I agree with you, but on the other hand, no one wants to see one car demolish the field in any class or sport
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 08:24 PM
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i heard Steph went 6.40 is this true...sorry about the hi-jack just curious
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 09:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by myke &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i heard Steph went 6.40 is this true...sorry about the hi-jack just curious</TD></TR></TABLE>

Car is parked until Moroso from what I heard.
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 10:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NFJohn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyone else think it is lame to have banned slipper style clutches?? This is a Pro class, but it seems that they have to abide by a sportsman type or rule. Was it a cost thing? </TD></TR></TABLE>

i think the idea behind the ban is to get the class to catch up and level out, THEN after that happens is when they allow the other stuff

last year the gm cars were chasing away lot of the competition, hence the large amount of those going hotrod to sport fwd
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 06:48 AM
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Bothwell ( Lummus ) ran 8.30 lifting at the 900 Ft. mark. That sets him around 8.0 or 7.90's. Not too far off his pace from last year.
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 08:25 AM
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Dam all the rule revisions didnt hurt them at all. They have a great team and just found way to make more power or something good job.
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 09:45 AM
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slider clutches were banned to give more of a definitive separation between hr and pro fwd. ron's and marty's sunfires could probably consistently qualify 3rd and 4th in pro fwd if things were left the way they were.
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 11:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NFJohn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It just sux to make a team that works harder come down to a lower level and wait for others to catch up. </TD></TR></TABLE>



i guess thats the price people will have to pay for being innovative and working hard to run fast. sucks big time.
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 12:05 PM
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Is it just me, or is anybody else shocked that this is possible on only a 70mm inducer turbo?

That's just amazing.

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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 08:53 PM
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i guess thats the price people will have to pay for being innovative and working hard to run fast. sucks big time. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I love the new rule since I can't afford a slipper clutch. Maybe people would change their tune if they had to compete, on their own dollar, against these cars with an almost unlimited budget.
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 09:04 PM
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So what type of clutch are you running???? How much do you think a slipper style clutch costs?? Like I said before, if cost is the determining factor in outlawing slipper clutches, then the Tilton Carbon/Carbon should be banned also...Hell, let's just make it a class where everyon has to factory clutches.. might as well. since one person can't afford a slpper, then next can't afford what that guy can afford, then the next guy can't afford what that guy can afford and so on and so on.. it is a never ending cycle. I bet there are some guys out there who want to race that can't afford after market axles. Should those get banned also.. That is also a performance advantage...I'm all for limiting the turbo size, tire size, engine size, but leave the other things alone.
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 09:17 PM
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I didn't ask for the rule, but I'm glad its here. No carbon/ carbon here either, I'm still rockin the 6 puck. Trust me, if I had the $$$ for one I'd run it, too.
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 01:05 PM
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Yeah seriously , you can have a slipper clutch for about a 1g more so I don't think its cost. There simply trying to slow the class down a little.
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 01:12 PM
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I was told that is is a money issue, not allowing the slipper clutch. But, not from a part standpoint, from the fact that it takes another crewmember to use it properly. You almost have to have a "clutch guy" and smaller teams can't afford to have another guy at every race.
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 01:53 PM
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so how much IS a slipper clutch? anyone got pics of the different ones that they sell, what makes one slipper more expensive than the next one? so on and so forth? who has dealt with one before here?


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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 01:57 PM
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NO WE RAN 6.38 @ 216.9
JUST PLAYIN CAR IS PARKED TILL FLORIDA
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