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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 08:35 PM
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well its been raining hard in houston the last two days, well on beltway 8 on ramp , there a big puddle of water that owned my car and intake. Well my engine works but when I stop my rpm's keeps jumping up to 2k then back down to 1k. I also feel no power in the engine. Lucky I made it home on 6th gear going 60mph. What should I do? Did my engine hydrolock? Well im gonna take it to acura tomorrow.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 08:36 PM
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Take off the cold air intake before taking the car to Acura.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 10:40 PM
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sounds like hydro lock. ouch*
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 04:51 AM
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lol...if your car sucked up water and you bring it to the dealership, they will see it, and they will tell you regardless of what you do (leave it on our put your stock back on) that you had a cold air intake on your car...becaues the stock intake would not have allowed that to happen, by its design it could not do that unless you drove it into a lake or something.

I assume you didnt have the bypass valve on there? People discredit the piece as being worthless, but im 99.9999% sure that in this case you'd still be fine and you would never have had to make this post...freakin $45 for a good security blanket.

Good luck man.
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 05:46 PM
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change the oil first thing, if it still has problems put the stock airbox back on and play dumb at the dealership. there's no way that the dealer can say that there is no way water cold have gotten through the stock airbox. many things are improbable but nothing is impossible. just say the puddle was pretty deep.

good luck
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 07:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 03ephatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sounds like hydro lock. ouch*</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 08:28 PM
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sorry to hear man, but yea put that stock airbox back on and pray on your knees before you go to bed tonight. Good luck tomorrow
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 09:19 PM
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CAI's

Atleast should have had a bypass valve
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 06:04 AM
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I can tell you now, if you go to Acura with your stock airbox on they will pull the engine, they will see that it was hydrolocked and they will call you up, have you come down...they will then show you what is wrong, and show you why it happened...they will then ask you what Cold Air Intake you had on the car...and most likely, laugh at you if you play dumb and say "Uhhh, none" because unless there was a recall on the stock airbox, there is no way that it would suck up water, if you siad the puddle was deep, they would then ask "Deep enough to submerge the front of the car in water?" and then you'd better have a good reason why your car isnt wrecked if you hit one like that unexpectedly, and even in that case that you have gotten to the point of convincing them that is what happened...nearly positive they will say "File a claim with your insurance..."

Why do i say this? Because it happened to my friends 2000 Si...back in the day when the bypass valve wasnt around, and the CAI's were just starting to become affordible, he had it, hydrolocked the engine, and then we went to Honda, he plead his case (after we put the stock stuff back on) and they said "This could have only happened in this situation...blah blah blah" And he was stuck having to file a claim with his insurance, on a $1,000 deductible (at that time Bseries motors were expenisve, back in 1999) and he ended up having the car sit in his yard for about 2 months until he could afford to shell out $1,000 for a claim to replace his engine.

I hate to be long winded about this but the dealers are not stupid...and i doubt you'll be able to pull it over on them without them just saying "File a claim, goodbye."
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 05:33 AM
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After you drove through the puddle - did your car die?

If so, did you try and start it?

Maybe it's a bent valve.
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 07:52 AM
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first, take off your filter...it is possible that there is water in the tube

second, do a full oil change

tell us what the oil looks like or post a picture and tell us the results of taking the filter/intake off and we can go from there
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 10:58 AM
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i have heard this story too many times. a young salesrep guy at a Acura dealer once told me this guy bought a new RSX Type S and couple weeks later slapped on a CAI and it hydro locked his motor.

Had to bring the car back and replace the motor. Costed him 5 Grand.....

i used to run a CAI for 2 years in my civic and NEVER had a problem only because i had the AEM bypass valve. I have even attempted many times to drive hard into puddles and never a problem.

Please get yourself a $45 AEM bypass valve on eBay or something.....

Here is the AEM bypass valve tested on a Acura NSX! It works!
http://www.sportcompactcarweb....sted/

"Next, we had Concialdi do a third-gear dyno pull while we held the filter above the fish tank and dunked it randomly in, and out of, the water. This was intended to simulate... well, an absolute idiot trying desperately to destroy their engine. Dropping the filter in the water caused the water to rise in the pipe again, but again, nothing happened."


oh yea the NSX guy rev'd pretty high too..
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 03:44 PM
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As long as your motor is running or at least turning over, you didn't hydrolock it. Hydrolock is from the piston trying to compress water (which is way more dense than air and will not compress) and you bend a rod or two. If it's locked, it wont turn over or run or anything. It sounds like you probably just fouled your plugs with the water. Pull all the plugs and clean and dry them out completely. Then turn over the motor a few times with the plugs out and the plug ports open to blow out any water from the combustion chambers. Then change the oil and again after about 500 miles to prevent any rust from forming on your internals. As long as you dont hear any serious knocking you probably didn't bend a rod. Good luck!
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 08:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by djsolution &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As long as your motor is running or at least turning over, you didn't hydrolock it. Hydrolock is from the piston trying to compress water (which is way more dense than air and will not compress) and you bend a rod or two. If it's locked, it wont turn over or run or anything. It sounds like you probably just fouled your plugs with the water. Pull all the plugs and clean and dry them out completely. Then turn over the motor a few times with the plugs out and the plug ports open to blow out any water from the combustion chambers. Then change the oil and again after about 500 miles to prevent any rust from forming on your internals. As long as you dont hear any serious knocking you probably didn't bend a rod. Good luck!</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 10:57 PM
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Probably bent a valve. An intake valve at that. Hydrolock is just that: locking up your engine due to catastrophic water damage. If your car runs but chugs a bit at idle, you probably slightly bend an intake valve by sucking just enough water into the intake charge to harm them upon the piston cycling.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 09:42 AM
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There aren't any AEM Water Bypass Valves out for the DC-5. Nor are there any plans for it. The reason being not enough air flow for the DC-5. I have an RSX-S and I have a V2 So I don't have to deal with hydrolock because its shorter.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 10:44 AM
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all you have to do to put a bypass on is match up the diameters of the valve and piping. i used to have an aem bypass on my iceman cai.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 03:59 PM
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that beat. change oil.....
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 04:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ROCAFELLA2049 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There aren't any AEM Water Bypass Valves out for the DC-5. Nor are there any plans for it. The reason being not enough air flow for the DC-5. I have an RSX-S and I have a V2 So I don't have to deal with hydrolock because its shorter.</TD></TR></TABLE>

there universal.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 07:17 PM
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No they are not universal due to the fact there is no clearance for an Rsx To add 1. You would have to cut the pipe in the upper section sacrificing performance so no go meaning get a shorter intake for better protection against hydrolock
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 08:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ROCAFELLA2049 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No they are not universal due to the fact there is no clearance for an Rsx To add 1. You would have to cut the pipe in the upper section sacrificing performance so no go meaning get a shorter intake for better protection against hydrolock</TD></TR></TABLE>


THERE UNIVERSAL.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 10:31 PM
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Bypass valves do not clear the shifter assembly on the rsx. the only way it would fit is to have it right by the throttle body and the power lost from using the bypass valve would not warrant getting a CAI, imo you could just use a V2.

if you put your stock intake back on they may be smart enough to know that your fender liner was cut to clear the CAI piping. food for thought.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 11:50 PM
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bypass valves are universal

dont tell me theres no where to put it, do you even no what size they are, they are the same exact size as the piping, it only sticks out like a half a inch around where it sticks out, you can put it anywhere, its not that tight
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 09:40 AM
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a) they are universal, just because the rsx doesn't have a lot of room to work with doesn't mean that they aren't and
b) people have put them on the rsx before, and not just next to the throttle body...there is plenty of space under the battery
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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Funny...my friend has had 2 RSX Type-S's (his and his wife's that she totalled)...BOTH had AEM cold air intakes and BOTH had bypass valves...im not gonna argue here with people, if you think you cant fit them then whatever, i've seen them on there, and i know it works...
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