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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 07:39 PM
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This last week i brought my b18b longblock into school too begin my ls-vtec project.While we wasted two days just too get it on a stand it didnt take long before we got ripping things apart!We got the complete longblock dissasembled and organized and measured within two days.I regret not taking pictures of the dissasembly but i did manage too bring my camera today and get some pics of what we worked on today.I will add pictures every weekday throughout the build...

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Heres the bare block ready to be honed...


About 1/4 worth of the parts out of the long block...


This is Me Honing the block...


My friend Terry going too town...


Terry and Dearth cleaning like mo fo's


Pre-Wash...


Water in action..


Nice and soaped up...


First stage of paint...looks like crap on this camera.


And the bunch of retards working on it..aka me and my class!Lol


Let me know what ya think the fun just got started!


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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 07:44 PM
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haha throwin up signs.

soaping it? you dont have a hot tank in the facility?
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 07:46 PM
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we do have one but the best way too clean a bore after it has been honed is soap and water...

all in all this is pretty cool for a school project,im missing a ton of pics too.I just did some basics pics too show whats going on...
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 09:17 PM
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nice man keep us updated
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 09:32 PM
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nice work so far....

keep us posted on how everything goes
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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i want to see how the block turns out ..im debateing on painteing mine black to
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 10:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by narib2oo1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And the bunch of retards
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West-side? Your in CT. Nice build up,but WTF is going on in this pic.
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 10:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91’ LS-VTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">West-side? Your in CT. Nice build up,but WTF is going on in this pic. </TD></TR></TABLE>
haha i was about ot put this,

best way to clean a block after rehone is soap and water? never heard that before
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 11:03 PM
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Yeah.. Im going to have to disagree with the soap and water thoery. The added minerials to basic public water alone will create surface rust everywhere (ie inside the sleeves, in the water jacket etc. Hot tanking is the ticket Weird picture but VERY cool if your getting to do all this for free at school. to that.

BTW, DITCH that Chilton Shop Manual and get a Helms.
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 11:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thevanitygroup &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah.. Im going to have to disagree with the soap and water thoery. The added minerials to basic public water alone will create surface rust everywhere (ie inside the sleeves, in the water jacket etc. Hot tanking is the ticket ;</TD></TR></TABLE>
im pretty sure you cant even hot tank aluminum blocks or at least that is what all the machine shops around here tell me so they put the blocks into a jet washer...also how are the aluminum water jackets gonna rust?and lastly if they use air to blow all the water away it wont even have time to rust anyway..im sure on the bores they would prolly shoot a lil bit of wd40 on to prevent rust but i may be wrong so correct me if i am
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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 12:01 AM
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Hey man cool school project I'm local to you so if you need anything just shoot me a PM .
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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 12:34 AM
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West Connecticut foo!!
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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 12:42 AM
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I cant wait to see that pic photoshopped
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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 01:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by reactiondc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im pretty sure you cant even hot tank aluminum blocks or at least that is what all the machine shops around here tell me so they put the blocks into a jet washer...also how are the aluminum water jackets gonna rust?and lastly if they use air to blow all the water away it wont even have time to rust anyway..im sure on the bores they would prolly shoot a lil bit of wd40 on to prevent rust but i may be wrong so correct me if i am </TD></TR></TABLE>


Aluminum blocks can be and are hot tanked daily. Hot tanking procedures are done at a lower temp then when you actual temp of a running engine. Therefore, the heat NOT a problem. Maybe your suggesting that the distilled solutions or the solvents a hot tank may use are harmful to the block? Wrong again, these fluids are processed to take out any minerials and sodiums that can harm the metal. The said minerials and sodium are typically found it hmmm lets say (public water). Ever seen bottom ends with RUST in the sleeves? I have many times. Do a search.

Never the less, I dont think he will cause any serious damage. Thats not at all what I was trying to say. What I am saying is that his theory of soap and water better than a good old hot tank is ridiculous. The water will leave behind unwanted residue and which is just not desirable. Good luck with the build. Free school build equals in my book. I dont care if you clean it in ketchup.
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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 01:39 AM
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Our hot tank at work runs at 198 degrees.. We do all the infostructure for f18 superhornets in it and thir all alumnium.. We run Triclorethene in ours..Its a vapor degreaser
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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 01:42 AM
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I hate you for the tools you have at your disposal! ....

Then again I like you for all the information you contributed because of it.

BTW, 300 dyno pulls in 1 year / 10,000 miles. When you sell you car and they ask how many miles it has and either freeway of street tell them 9,700 on the dyno and the rest on the way there
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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 03:02 AM
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Haha thanks guys..the last pic was a joke.But anyways,we are going very detailed in this build.Half of my class is working on my ls-vtec and the other half is working on a jdm b18c-R.Its pretty cool.Yes were doing all this stuff for free,we measured everything including align bore.We even are gonna port the pr3 head at school as well as a 3 angle valve job.
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Heres the parts list
Aebs manifold
pr3 head ported/polished,3 angle valve job,milled
skunk2 stage1 cams with cam gears
65mm tb
hondata intake manifold gasket
new valve seats,cut valves
polished crank
arp rod bolts/headbolts
custom ceramic coated pistons 11.8-1
king main bearings,rod bearings
gsr oil,timing,water pumps/belts
theres prolly lot more i cant think of..but this has been great so far
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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 03:03 AM
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tbone...a few people in my class told me too bring it your dyno after im done...any school discounts???hehe jk
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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 03:12 AM
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Well this is how we cleaned the block...once everything was removed we put it in the schools cuda...which is similar too a hot-tank,but cleans it with cleaning solutions.We then polished all the mating surfaces.My teacher told us one of the best ways too cylinders after its done is soap and water.Anyways after it was all washed away he took a hi pressure air gun and just blew the **** out of it...But i will post more pics on monday when i get a chance.
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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 04:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by narib2oo1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">tbone...a few people in my class told me too bring it your dyno after im done...any school discounts???hehe jk</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think we could work something out on the dyno tunning , I can also work something out on the piston coatings

Btw I dont own Bristol dyno, I'm just sponsored by them
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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 05:33 AM
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dingle-ball hone.

What you're learning is what they've been teaching since the model T came out.

'cast I-urn blocks and such'

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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 06:26 AM
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nice project keep up poasted for the good project
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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 11:34 AM
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thanks everyone...cant wait till monday for more
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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 12:58 PM
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i was going to go there but decided against it. but anyway looks like a good time. good luck on the build. when you go to the dyno lmk so i could check it out.
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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 05:14 PM
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Keep us posted on how it works out. I"m just wondering why you painted the block black because its going to be difficult to see if your leaking oil, just a thought.
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