just curious, i noticed on tire rack they have dunlop direzza DZ101 tires for sale now. theres no reviews. are they new?

anyone have any information on these?

$60 for 205/50/15 is pretty damn cheap, azenis value potential?

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...DZ101


hmm i guess they are new. one search in google popped up a bunch of links of the same PR crap. looks like dunlop is trying to create a lot of hype for the compact crowd. hopefully its not just blown up hype and real performance.
http://money.cnn.com/services/...0.htm

 

Looks like every other bargain "performance" tire on the market right now, like the Fuzion, Hankook, Falken etc. My guess is good value for street duty but chunk city on-track.

 

205 is to wide for 15 x 6.5in moogans

 

treadwear rating is 300, so it doesn't seem Azeni calliber.

 

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Says who?

 

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Every stunna driving a Volkswagen

 

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Really? And you've done tests with results that support this? Or is it just because that's what the JDM junkies say.....

 

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You are joking. Right?

225 is not too wide for 6.5 inch wheels. 225 isn't even too wide for 6" wide wheels.

205s will fit on 6" wide wheels with no problems all day long. They aren't even hard to mount. Either you were being sarcastic or j00 are hanging with the wrong people. The "I don't know **** but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night" crowd.

 

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You are joking. Right?

225 is not too wide for 6.5 inch wheels. 225 isn't even too wide for 6" wide wheels.

205s will fit on 6" wide wheels with no problems all day long. They aren't even hard to mount. Either you were being sarcastic or j00 are hanging with the wrong people. The "I don't know **** but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night" crowd.

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or maybe I've had quite a few sets. I traded my 205's for 195's in order to have daily driven camber and not grind my fender wells off. I could fit michelin white wall balloon tires on 6in rims too. For any of the ultra old schoolers you may remeber Mugen used to have a RTS calculator included with there rims and even they recommended 195's. But what do they know

even with stock suspension there would be enough travel in the rear suspension to touch the 205's from time to time with 0 degrees camber. And since this would be for a dialy driven car that has considerable miles put on it -1 or -2 would wear those particular tires considerably faster. You have to remeber Dunlop Dirrezzas are not designed for - camber like the apenis

 

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Um, no . . .

 

or maybe wheels with the correct offset will help the rubbing problem instead of just saying that a 205 is too wide for mugens. I have 205 Azenis on a set of stock LS wheels (6 inches wide) with 0 camber and they have never rubbed on anything. And we all know that the 205 Azenis are a tit bit wider in comparison to other 205's.

 

For $60 a tire this will be my next set. I should need a set in a couple months or so.

 

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um yes. before you post why don't you pick up the phone and contact dunlop usa tommorrow and tell them you want to run -2 degrees and ask them about the lifespan. 0 degrees will rub especially on the roads in so cal. On an EK or EP or DC5 probably not but on a CRX I know for a fact they will.

"or maybe wheels with the correct offset will help the rubbing problem instead of just saying that a 205 is too wide for mugens"

because 205's are to wide for his wheels. Even in a kumho like I've had several sets of in 205 it will rub. I highly doubt he would buy a second set of wheels to mount these tires on since he's trying to save money and get a good tire.

 

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Just because it doesn't work in your particular application doesn't mean it doesn't work elsewhere.

Is it optimal to have a 205 tire on a 6.5" wide rim? No.
Does it "work"? Yes.


Andy, who has put a 205 Hoosier on a 5.5" wide rim with -2° camber.

 

"Nothing" This is funny!!!!

 

Read things more closely Stormy, its not a matter of 205 tires not fitting on 6.5" wide wheels, which is what you originally stated.

This is a matter of several other things...

1. You haven't rolled your fender lips.
2. The wheel offset is probably too low.
3. You are running zero camber when you can easily run up to -1 with no issues (the Type R came from the factory with close to that).

I have 205 Azenis on 6" wide wheels on our Neon ACR. They fit perfectly. No issues. Plenty of room to spare everywhere.

So this...
"205 is to wide for 15 x 6.5in moogans"
is a totally incorrect statement.

 

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How much experience do you have with alignment . . . ?

 

Hey stormy, please take a look at this link.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...DZ101

I think tirerack knows there stuff. And in case you're too lazy to click the link, I'll tell you what it says:

205/50 VR15 Dunlop Direzza's have a rim width range of 5.5"-7.5", and their measured rim width was on 6.5" wide rims.

Catch is right, try running wheels with the correct offset for j00r car.....

 

i'm sure stormy was just trying to say 6.5" width isn't optimal for 205 width. ideally 205 would go with 7" wide rims. in japan they have many 195 width tires available and and they are used with the 6.5" rims. they have 185 width tires for 6" rims usually. they also have low profile 155, 165, 175 tires to go with smaller 13-14" rims for the little K cars...

 

I've run 225/50s on a set of 14x5.5 steelies and several dozens of 225/50 Hoosiers (much wider than a normal tire) on 14x6s. I think they are right about the off-set - as long as that is right (and the fender lips are rolled), I cannot imagine any problems w/ a 205 street tire on a 6.5" rim.

Looks like a nice deal for 60 bucks. I need to replace the tires on the 944 and this might be a good option.

 

"You are running zero camber when you can easily run up to -1 with no issues (the Type R came from the factory with close to that)."

ahahahahaha

are you trying to compare a CR-X to a type R ? becaue in the ITR's case it's running on tires specifically designed for it and it's suspension. The CR-X will be ad hoc at best

"You haven't rolled your fender lips"

Next I will tell you a 350 will fit mounted in your passenger seat area with just a little work

"205/50 VR15 Dunlop Direzza's have a rim width range of 5.5"-7.5", and their measured rim width was on 6.5" wide rims"

oh an I guess that means that since they fit on the rim than my 18 speed schwin can rock them no problemo even though I never said they can't physically fit but that with perfect aligment they will rub

this car has about 2 degrees of negative rear on basically the same wheel specs, you can see that even with 195's should the camber be set to 0 they will rub, 205's even more so. This car is only about 1in lower than a stock si on sagging stock suspension, with 2-3 inches or rear suspension movement the tire will start griding away. On a freeway in cali where we have some very abrupt expansions 80 mph will easily do this which is slow traffic speeds

 

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No way in hell. That car probably barely has 3" of suspension travel left. It's lower than mine, and I'm lowered at least 2.5" from the stock suspension with broken coil springs . . .

 

I think its an offset issue - these are 225s and they are probably experiencing a bit more suspension issues than most highway commutes do:

 

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Only if by sagging springs, you mean uniform 2-3" sagging all around.

Original shocks and springs:



It certainly sounds like you have the wrong offset on your wheels.

EDIT: (side note: I want to put Direzzas on my Kia Forenza with Altezzas)

 

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Only if by sagging springs, you mean uniform 2-3" sagging all around.

Original shocks and springs:



It certainly sounds like you have the wrong offset on your wheels.

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damn you guys on the right coast don't carry much in the back, alot of CR-X's here are stink bug from it