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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 12:51 AM
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So i'm looking for a good set of brake pads.
i'm going to be running brembo blanks for rotors.
and this one site i'm looking at gives you 20bux off if you purchase
brembo pads along with the rotors.

originally my plan was to get the hawk pads,
but this would save me some $$

SOOOoooo, what do you all think?
are the brembo pads any good? Hawk pads come highly recommended>
On the brembos, hows the fade resistance? hows the bite? brake dust?

thanks!
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 02:41 AM
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It depends in part on whose pads the site is offering versus the Hawk. How you drive is a factor. Another thing-AEM/Nissin pads are better than stock for daily driving and HPDE, so consider that alternative. If you are doing a lot of autocross or track event sthen you might want something more. I have run the AEM/Nissin pads on all of the honda's on the street and they are just fine for the price. For HPDE the CRX has used several pads and the AEM are preferred unless we running a high braking force track and then we do use something else.
Just my 2 cents from experience
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 05:21 AM
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 06:46 AM
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What will these be used for?
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 07:03 AM
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I've actually never heard of anyone running Brembo pads.

Personally Bobcat's for daily & P+'s if you don't mind some noise.

I loved the sound of P+'s in the morning.
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 10:03 AM
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I had Hawk HPS pads on my S2000, and they were not noticeably better than the stock pads -- they faded really badly after just a few road course laps. I'd stay away from them for any car intended for track use (well, for any car, period).

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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 10:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PedalFaster &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had Hawk HPS pads on my S2000, and they were not noticeably better than the stock pads -- they faded really badly after just a few road course laps. I'd stay away from them for any car intended for track use (well, for any car, period).

Steve</TD></TR></TABLE>

HPS means "High Performance <u>Street</u>"

They don't even pretend to be suitable for track use. They are only meant for street and maybe autocross use. Hawk HP+ or Axxis Ultimates for street, autocross, and light track use (ie HPDE, open track days, etc). For road course competition use, nothing less than true race pads... Cobalt Spec-B and Hawk Blue are popular choices, but you obviously don't use them on the street.

And beware of "tuner" pads and other parts... anything targetted at the ricer/"tuner" market is usually pretty shitty.
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 11:08 AM
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Hmm,
I think you guys missed the point,
I'm trying to found out if brembo brake pads specifically are as good as hawk hps,
the site is offering brembo sports only for the discount.

going to be using them for daily, and occasional track day.
performance wise, the track driving is what I want them for specifically.
Want them to be fade free, good strong bite!

curious as to how they dust, but it's not a be all end all.
thanks again!
(oh about the hps vs hp+... I decided on one of those a while ago.. but I can't
remember which it was I decided on now.. haha, go fig).
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 11:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">» Search Results

Your search for brake pads returned 71 results.

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Gee thanks mr. smarty pants,
too bad i'm looking for opinions on brembo pads in particular,
and already tried searching for them
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 11:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hmm,
I think you guys missed the point,
I'm trying to found out if brembo brake pads specifically are as good as hawk hps,
the site is offering brembo sports only for the discount.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well good luck then. As I said, I've never heard of anyone running Brembo pads.
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 03:46 PM
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gotcha,
well I guess I can only hope that someone with knowledge about these pads will see this post then.
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 04:17 PM
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OH one more question,
are these sold in a set of one rotor, or a pair?
the drilled or sloted are in pairs. but the blanks don't say.

http://www.importperformance.com/store/BR25507

thnx.
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 05:14 PM
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I'm kinda wondering if Brembo makes their own pads, or if they re-badge someone else's.
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 05:33 AM
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^^He's on the right track^^
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 06:32 AM
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yes i work @ mitsubishi and the lancer evolutions use a brembo pad and to get them we have to call direct to brembo not to mitsu parts. That doesent make it 100% that they manufacture them but its my guess they do. btw if you were going to race and street the car, hawk hps are great if you go any higher you will have problem daily driving on them. most pads higher than the hps have higher operating temps than you would need on the streets. like the hawk, blues before they are bedded in they make lots of noise and before they are heated up they barely stop, but once they have a lap in they are fine.
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 06:44 AM
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Well remember, the Blues are not the next step up. The HP+'s are, which are a perfectly streetable pad.
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 07:41 AM
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iam sorry, i forgot.
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 07:46 AM
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sti, evo, 350z-track use brembo pads as OE. those are good, but there ~300 a set (fronts). so i doubt pads on special are anything great. why not spend a little more money and go with hawks or cobalt friction. somehting that you and everyone else knows work well.

*also, that are you going to be doing with the car with these pads on it? they may be a great autocross pad, but suck horrible for DE's.

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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 08:55 AM
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I'll be doing everything with this car really.
driving it daily, autox'ing when I can find one near me,
track time as much as my pocket can afford(which isnt much).

fade free operation is key. and i've so used to stock 150k mile cx brakes..
any improvement in bite/power will be a good improvement.

but yeah doesnt look like theres enough info on these pads to warrant
buying them over the hawks..
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 11:59 AM
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 05:27 PM
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What I've gathered from a few of your posts:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hawk hps...fade free operation...track time...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Good luck with that....
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Old Feb 2, 2005 | 04:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but yeah doesnt look like theres enough info on these pads to warrant
buying them over the hawks..</TD></TR></TABLE>

Any particular reason why you are stuck on these?

Open to suggestions at all?
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Old Feb 2, 2005 | 11:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr Hammond &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Any particular reason why you are stuck on these?

Open to suggestions at all?</TD></TR></TABLE>

what the brembos or the hawks?
the brembos I could have gotten a deal on to save money

the hawks I want because from everything i've read they'll do what I need them to do.
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Old Feb 2, 2005 | 12:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the hawks I want because from everything i've read they'll do what I need them to do.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't think a single person on this thread has said that the Hawk HPS's will do what you need them to do, namely withstand even occasional track use.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Weston &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">HPS means "High Performance <u>Street</u>" They don't even pretend to be suitable for track use. They are only meant for street and maybe autocross use. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't know if you're trying to argue (it seems like we're in agreement, but the tone of your post suggests otherwise), but for the record, he asked about the HPS pads' resistance to fade, and I gave him my firsthand impressions. I agree that HPS's are terrible for track use.

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Old Feb 2, 2005 | 12:18 PM
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well it might come as a shock,
but I actually happen to use the search feature to hunt down info myself,
heh, so I got my opinion of the hawk pads from there.

but it was a while ago, so I might be getting the hps and hp+ confused

the main point of this thread was to find out about brembo pads.

though if you say the hps really suck for track use.. i'll double think that!
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