are skunk stage 1's worth the extra money over the ctr's
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are skunk stage 1's worth the extra money over the ctr's
i've heard that stage 1's offer only a slight gain over the ctr's, am i better off just sticking with the ctr cams?
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Re: are skunk stage 1's worth the extra money over the ctr's (an2ny888)
It is pretty much your call. Stage 1's make 1-2 hp over ctr's, and some more midrange(typically) But Ctr's are oem cams.....
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Re: are skunk stage 1's worth the extra money over the ctr's (nasi)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nasi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It is pretty much your call. Stage 1's make 1-2 hp over ctr's, and some more midrange(typically) But Ctr's are oem cams.....</TD></TR></TABLE>
1-2 whp? maybe mid range.....
The stage 1's will be comparable through the low-midrange however the big difference is at the higher rpm. I swapped my ITR's out for stage 1's and put down 15whp more (peak power).
Go witht the stage 1's...
1-2 whp? maybe mid range.....
The stage 1's will be comparable through the low-midrange however the big difference is at the higher rpm. I swapped my ITR's out for stage 1's and put down 15whp more (peak power).
Go witht the stage 1's...
Re: are skunk stage 1's worth the extra money over the ctr's (skunked)
Don't forget you're gonna hafta buy valvesprings. It's not just buying the camshaft alone, and maybe cam gears also to extract every bit of power out of em. You could be into these for over a grand real quiick, but if you get 15 more whp like the guy did above, then I say do it! 
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When i swaped out my type R cams for skunk stage 1 it made a huge difference. V-tec screamed and if you think about it you will need to get cam gears sooner or later. Also i used mine on stock valve train.
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Re: are skunk stage 1's worth the extra money over the ctr's (skunked)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by skunked »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">about 700 new.....400-500 used on this board.
I sold mine last year for 450.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I just took a hugh hit on a new set of S1's I just sold, because there are ALOT of people selling them NEW for $510-$525. Look around, there not too far away.
I sold mine last year for 450.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I just took a hugh hit on a new set of S1's I just sold, because there are ALOT of people selling them NEW for $510-$525. Look around, there not too far away.
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Re: are skunk stage 1's worth the extra money over the ctr's (BryanPendleton)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BryanPendleton »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I just took a hugh hit on a new set of S1's I just sold, because there are ALOT of people selling them NEW for $510-$525. Look around, there not too far away.</TD></TR></TABLE>
damn.....Why even run CTR or ITR cams when the skunks are that cheap!
I just took a hugh hit on a new set of S1's I just sold, because there are ALOT of people selling them NEW for $510-$525. Look around, there not too far away.
</TD></TR></TABLE>damn.....Why even run CTR or ITR cams when the skunks are that cheap!
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Re: are skunk stage 1's worth the extra money over the ctr's (na200whp)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by na200whp »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not worth the extra money. keep your CTR's</TD></TR></TABLE>
I can't disagree anymore with this statement above.
I can't disagree anymore with this statement above.
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Re: are skunk stage 1's worth the extra money over the ctr's (skunked)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by skunked »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I can't disagree anymore with this statement above.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree that they are not worth it.. I have them in my car and they are nothing to write home about. They offer about 4-5whp over the CTR cams. The large gains the other guy saw could be from tunning. Who knows. I talked to Omni about these cams and he agree's... little gain over CTR cams.
I can't disagree anymore with this statement above.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree that they are not worth it.. I have them in my car and they are nothing to write home about. They offer about 4-5whp over the CTR cams. The large gains the other guy saw could be from tunning. Who knows. I talked to Omni about these cams and he agree's... little gain over CTR cams.
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Re: are skunk stage 1's worth the extra money over the ctr's (skunked)
^ Tell me why you couldent disagree more? I mean facts!
The facts are is that the Stage 1's only make minimal gains above the CTR cams and they are not even close to OEM quality. All that for an extra $500 bucks when he already has CTR's, not a SMART buy.
A suggestion of mine, if you would like to keep costs down but still make good power for your money (Buddy Club Spec III+'s) should run in the high $400's BRAND NEW and many plots show atleast 10+ HP gains over CTR's. Turn around and sell your CTR's and almost break even, now thats a SMART deal.
The facts are is that the Stage 1's only make minimal gains above the CTR cams and they are not even close to OEM quality. All that for an extra $500 bucks when he already has CTR's, not a SMART buy.
A suggestion of mine, if you would like to keep costs down but still make good power for your money (Buddy Club Spec III+'s) should run in the high $400's BRAND NEW and many plots show atleast 10+ HP gains over CTR's. Turn around and sell your CTR's and almost break even, now thats a SMART deal.
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Re: are skunk stage 1's worth the extra money over the ctr's (Hybrid93Eg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid93Eg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I agree that they are not worth it.. I have them in my car and they are nothing to write home about. They offer about 4-5whp over the CTR cams. The large gains the other guy saw could be from tunning. Who knows. I talked to Omni about these cams and he agree's... little gain over CTR cams. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Funny you say that....Steve (omni) suggested I buy the cams and tuned the car. My car had 12:5:1 compression and loved the cams.
I agree that they are not worth it.. I have them in my car and they are nothing to write home about. They offer about 4-5whp over the CTR cams. The large gains the other guy saw could be from tunning. Who knows. I talked to Omni about these cams and he agree's... little gain over CTR cams. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Funny you say that....Steve (omni) suggested I buy the cams and tuned the car. My car had 12:5:1 compression and loved the cams.
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Re: are skunk stage 1's worth the extra money over the ctr's (skunked)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by skunked »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Funny you say that....Steve (omni) suggested I buy the cams and tuned the car. My car had 12:5:1 compression and loved the cams. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Hmm. Everytime I talked to him he seemed to agree with me that they offered little gains over the CTR cams...
Funny you say that....Steve (omni) suggested I buy the cams and tuned the car. My car had 12:5:1 compression and loved the cams. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Hmm. Everytime I talked to him he seemed to agree with me that they offered little gains over the CTR cams...
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Re: are skunk stage 1's worth the extra money over the ctr's (Hybrid93Eg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid93Eg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Hmm. Everytime I talked to him he seemed to agree with me that they offered little gains over the CTR cams...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Keep in mind he worked for Skunk2 at the time back when they were in hayward.....I know he won't support anything those guys produce now and that may be the reason.
Hmm. Everytime I talked to him he seemed to agree with me that they offered little gains over the CTR cams...
</TD></TR></TABLE>Keep in mind he worked for Skunk2 at the time back when they were in hayward.....I know he won't support anything those guys produce now and that may be the reason.
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Re: are skunk stage 1's worth the extra money over the ctr's (skunked)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by skunked »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Keep in mind he worked for Skunk2 at the time back when they were in hayward.....I know he won't support anything those guys produce now and that may be the reason. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, I was aware of that... which is part of the reason why I figured he, if anyone, would know best about what the cams were designed to do.
Keep in mind he worked for Skunk2 at the time back when they were in hayward.....I know he won't support anything those guys produce now and that may be the reason. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, I was aware of that... which is part of the reason why I figured he, if anyone, would know best about what the cams were designed to do.
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Re: are skunk stage 1's worth the extra money over the ctr's (clean rice)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by clean rice »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't forget you're gonna hafta buy valvesprings. It's not just buying the camshaft alone, and maybe cam gears also to extract every bit of power out of em. You could be into these for over a grand real quiick, but if you get 15 more whp like the guy did above, then I say do it! </TD></TR></TABLE>
You can run S1's with an ITR valvetrain. I don't know if I'd pick up S1's unless I came close to breaking even by selling my CTR's. If you're gonna upgrade, might as well go further
. I'm not denying that they're sweet cams though. Some guy that used to frequent the integra forum came close to 190 whp on his stock block GS-R before bending the valves somehow (Neo1Z = username). I'm just saying, from a money saving standpoint, I probably wouldn't do it... but I'm a broke *** so who knows
</TD></TR></TABLE>You can run S1's with an ITR valvetrain. I don't know if I'd pick up S1's unless I came close to breaking even by selling my CTR's. If you're gonna upgrade, might as well go further
. I'm not denying that they're sweet cams though. Some guy that used to frequent the integra forum came close to 190 whp on his stock block GS-R before bending the valves somehow (Neo1Z = username). I'm just saying, from a money saving standpoint, I probably wouldn't do it... but I'm a broke *** so who knows
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15 whp increase? that's huge, but i'm assuming tha 12.5 compression had a lot to do with that. i'll only be at 11.1 i think ( stock jdm b18cr )
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Re: are skunk stage 1's worth the extra money over the ctr's (skunked)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by skunked »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Funny you say that....Steve (omni) suggested I buy the cams and tuned the car. </TD></TR></TABLE>
i distinctly remember reading in a thread here on H-T where Omni said that when both CTR's and S2S1's are tuned, that the increase is minimal...2-3whp. i can't say the same because i've only owned CTR's, but, i don't know........
Funny you say that....Steve (omni) suggested I buy the cams and tuned the car. </TD></TR></TABLE>
i distinctly remember reading in a thread here on H-T where Omni said that when both CTR's and S2S1's are tuned, that the increase is minimal...2-3whp. i can't say the same because i've only owned CTR's, but, i don't know........