<U>TODA N2 Full Setup</U>



229.4whp @ 8200rpm & 158.8wtq @ 5800rpm

They made that power with the following setup.
<FONT COLOR="red">*</FONT>INJEN cold air intake, TODA Engine Kit, TODA Exhaust Manifold, and MUGEN exhaust system.

Also needed which is not listed on TODA's site is the K20A PRC Intake Manifold which TODA has not listed. Their numbers were achieved using this Intake Manifold.

TODA Engine Kit is made up of the following parts:
TODA Spec N2 Camshafts
TODA Uprated Valve Spring Kit
TODA USA N2 ECU Reflash

<U>Price Breakdown</U>
<A HREF="http://store.clubrsx.com/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=CR&Product_Code =TDR-
09.TD.EKK20A&Category_Code=ARSXENCC&Product_Count= 7" TARGET="_blank">TODA Engine Kit</A>: $2,350
<A HREF="http://store.clubrsx.com/merchant.mv?
Screen=PROD&Store_Code=CR&Product_Code=INJ-
RS1475P&Category_Code=ICATS&Product_Count=1" TARGET="_blank">INJEN cold air intake</A>: $227
K20A PRC Intake Manifold: $330
<A HREF="http://store.clubrsx.com/merchant.mv?
Screen=PROD&Store_Code=CR&Product_Code=TDR-
11.TD.EMFK20A&Category_Code=HR&Product_Count=3" TARGET="_blank">TODA Exhaust Manifold</A>: $1,150
MUGEN exhaust system: $975
Total Price: $5,032

<U>IPS- K2 Full Setup</U>



247.5whp @ 7905rpm & 172wtq @ 5914rpm

They made that power with the following setup:
IPS-K2 camshafts, PRC intake manifold w/bored TB, Hondata IMG, CAI with Prototype Racing Intake-Bell, DC Race Header, 5 Zigen catback<FONT COLOR="red">*</FONT>, Hondata K-Pro.

<FONT COLOR="red">*</FONT>I could not find more info on this exhaust. I used Comptech Exhaust in price list since it is 2.5".

<U>Price Breakdown</U>
IPS-K2 & Hondata K-Pro Bundle Price: $2,000
<A HREF="http://acuraautomotiveparts.org/acura/jsp/mws/srchrslts.jsp?
search=sku&srchwords=14752-PRB-A01" TARGET="_blank">14752-PRB-A01</A> - inner valve spring, red top: $4.67/ea<FONT COLOR="red">*</FONT> x 16 = $74.72
<A HREF="http://acuraautomotiveparts.org/acura/jsp/mws/srchrslts.jsp?
search=sku&srchwords=14761-PCX-003" TARGET="_blank">14761-PCX-003</A> - outer valve spring, yellow top: $5.70/ea<FONT COLOR="red">*</FONT> x 16 = $91.20
<A HREF="http://acuraautomotiveparts.org/acura/jsp/mws/srchrslts.jsp?
search=sku&srchwords=14765-PRB-A01" TARGET="_blank">14765-PRB-A01</A> - retainer w/ dished top: $2.23/ea<FONT COLOR="red">*</FONT> x 16 = $35.68
Prototype Racing Intake Bell: $70
AEM Cold Air Intake: $217
Bored Throttle Body: $150
Hondata Intake Manifold Gasket: $65
K20A PRC Intake Manifold: $330
DC Sports Ceramic Race Header: $349
Comptech Exhaust : $695<FONT COLOR="red">**</FONT>
Total Price: $4,077

<FONT COLOR="red">*</FONT>Prices were found at http://acuraautomotiveparts.org/
<FONT COLOR="red">**</FONT>Custom exhaust can be made for half that price. I wanted to use an exhaust that readily available to the public for comparison sake.

I just wanted to show the peeps on this site the power you could make when going either route and the amount of money you will spend to get there.


TODA N2 Graph vs IPS-K2 Graph
NUMBERS
Difference in peak numbers
229.4whp/158.8wtq Toda N2 Peak
247.5whp/172.2wtq IPS-K2 Peak
18.1whp/13.4wtq Peak Difference

Difference across the powerband
@3000rpm est. 80whp/135wtq Toda N2
@3000rpm est. 84whp/149wtq IPS-K2
@3000rpm est. 4whp/14wtq Difference

@5000rpm est. 141whp/145wtq Toda N2
@5000rpm est. 150whp/159wtq IPS-K2
@5000rpm est. 9whp/14wtq Difference

@8000rpm est. 228whp/144wtq Toda N2
@8000rpm est. 245whp/162wtq IPS-K2
@8000rpm est. 17whp/18wtq Difference

-Jalal

 

impressive

 

This will only work with the k20a engine though correct ? or k20a2?

 

I don't really think that's a fair comparison in price because the mugen exhuast is not cheap.

 

nice

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chemicalviper &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This will only work with the k20a engine though correct ? or k20a2? </TD></TR></TABLE>
They will work with both K20A and K20A2.

aznbo1626, i compared the setups that were given on both websites. They are the setups used to achieve the numbers they advertise. If TODA wanted to save some money and possibly make some more power, they would have used the Comptech 2.5" exhaust which is a good $200 cheaper. Also, the IPS setup is using the lesser header of the two. It is making more power for less money... why are people disputing this???
-Jalal

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MJ23FE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
It is making more power for less money... why are people disputing this???
-Jalal</TD></TR></TABLE>

b/c according to some people on crsx it's not a fair comparison lol.... and that if it was only a numbers game it would be different, but you factored in the cost. i think it says a lot about IPS. but the only "fair" comparison is having the exact same set up in the same car with the same mods and just swapping out the cams.


Modified by Hapa DC5 at 2:19 PM 1/29/2005

 

need some a3 cams lol

 

Now can we throw in a $5000 Turbo kit and Jackson Supercharger kit and see where that goes?

170 Ft-Lbs is very impressive though for NA

 

weak man...NA is your daddy.


Good job, Jalal.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DC5Dawg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">weak man...NA is your daddy.


Good job, Jalal. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks Jarrod!
-Jalal