4130 steel or 6061-T6 for shift linkages?
as the title says, 4130 chrome-moly steel or 6061-T6 for making lightweight shift linkages. also throw in there 6061-T0 and 7075 aluminum for ***** and giggles. 7075 has just as great tensile/working/shear loads as lower-grade irons and such. i have access to lots of nice machines . . .
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95lstegman »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">as the title says, 4130 chrome-moly steel or 6061-T6 for making lightweight shift linkages. also throw in there 6061-T0 and 7075 aluminum for ***** and giggles. 7075 has just as great tensile/working/shear loads as lower-grade irons and such. i have access to lots of nice machines . . .</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'd go with either 6061-T6 or 7075.
Further, I'd go with the 6061 for cost.
I'd go with either 6061-T6 or 7075.
Further, I'd go with the 6061 for cost.
me too, i'd love to say 6061, preferably tensile-6, for the cost, but i don't know if that's strong enough. stock ones are beefy steel stuff, so i wasn't sure how much stress would be put on them
You might get a little flex with the 6061, but I wouldn't see it being a problem.
Just don't weld it, you'll lose the temper if you get it hot.
Just don't weld it, you'll lose the temper if you get it hot.
i'll have to sit down with a materials website and my calculator and some paper and see. what i'd love to do is make it from aluminum tube, for ultimate lightness. that'll probably require 7075, but i think i may be able to shell out for just tubular, not bar. i'm thinking 3/16" walled 3/4" or 1" 7075, but then i'd have to weld on some custom end fittings. making them wouldn't be a problem, but i'd be afraid of the tube breaking at the end then. i may have to go with tubular 4130 or 4340 steel or something. i wonder if the stock linkages are solid or tubular . . . i'm not going to cut mine apart to find out! anybody know?
Do yuou mean the actual linkage going to the tranny?
edit: the shifter is solid, the shift linkage is tube...not sure about the stabalizer linkage.
edit: the shifter is solid, the shift linkage is tube...not sure about the stabalizer linkage.
both bars are tubular and actually pretty thin... in all honesty... how much weight do u plan on saving? the stock linkage really is pretty light... to make it out of 4130 imo would be a waste
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You probably only need 4130 tubing that's about 0.060" thick. It doesn't take much. And a pipe with that wall thickness should only be ~2 lbs.
thanks guys. i didn't know the stock bars were thin tubes. in that case i'll probably stick with aluminum. i just remember removing them once and they weren't light, and since i now have access to a machine shop, i figured i'd like to start out with a project. i think i'll go aluminum and make plugs for the ends to strengthen the ends so i can weld proper fittings onto the ends.
Steel is roughly 3 times heavier than Aluminum, 3 times stronger than Aluminum, and cheaper.
If you use Aluminum, you're going to have to have a thicker wall and it will cost more.
Just food for thought.
Don't forget the bend you need in there too. Aluminum doesn't bend too well. You need a metal that will bend a bit and stay there. SOmething that doesn't have too much spring to it. There's some technical name for it but I forget.
BTW I used 0.75" OD, 0.065" WallThickness 4130 Alloy pipe for my rear upper strut bar. Just to give you an idea.
If you use Aluminum, you're going to have to have a thicker wall and it will cost more.
Just food for thought.
Don't forget the bend you need in there too. Aluminum doesn't bend too well. You need a metal that will bend a bit and stay there. SOmething that doesn't have too much spring to it. There's some technical name for it but I forget.
BTW I used 0.75" OD, 0.065" WallThickness 4130 Alloy pipe for my rear upper strut bar. Just to give you an idea.
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