I've got to replace the front upper control arms on my 91 CRX and I was wondering if anyone knew where to get aftermarket ones with an adjustable balljoint.

I found these at this site. They're resonable in cost, but they want freaking $44 dollars to ship them! WTF? LOL I hate getting ripped off with bullshit shipping cost like that.

Any suggestions or information would be greatly appreciated.

 

search for "vision" arms.

 

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Thanks...I searched in both the recent content and archives but only come up with a couple old classified ad's from 03. Tried google as well but no luck. I'll keep searching around...thanks again.

 

vision arms never heard of them but the ones that were linked looked like poor quality IMO

 

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try this.......... http://www.jhpusa.com/catalog/...69b4d

 

Or you can do like Wes V did and make your own

 

$460 for the Vision arms?

Holy Crap!

 

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Holy Crap! </TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats what im sayin!!! MOVE ON!!!!!!!!!

 

if you just wnat the adjustable ball joint, another choice is the spc adjustable ball joint kit that replaces the stock ball joint.

i have it and it works great just uses the stock arm

http://www.spcperformance.com/....html

the kit typically costs about $200

 

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i have it and it works great just uses the stock arm

http://www.spcperformance.com/....html

the kit typically costs about $200</TD></TR></TABLE>

I rock those too . Good stuff.

 

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Wes V is a fabricating ****. LoL
Hell if i had spare time i'd do the same thing.

 

Rostr02 - Yeah, I'm not real sure on them and that shipping cost pissed me off. But versus 460 bucks, I may check them out and post back up. lol

Mr B in Az - Thanks for the link! Honest I searched. lol

Mr_CRX = Wish I had the ability to make those. Wev V wanna make some more? hehe And I bet it didn't cost 460 to make them.

Jonathan_ED3/pogiTSI - No kidding! Hell I've got enough other stuff to buy to finish this project, I can't sport no vision arms.

90civicihbsi - Thanks for the link and info. I'll have to keep that as an option.

hahagasdcrx - Did you have to press out the old balljoint? When I had the arms out when I replaced the bushings....they looked almost like they were spot welded in or pressed in?

Definitely appreciate all the helpful responses!

 

The arms I built were very easy to build if you have basic fabrication skills and a welder. I made them up by using the "new design" Skunk2 arms that I got from Lightning Motorsport for $189 (dirt cheap in my mind!!).

Here is a link showing how to do it;

http://www.performanceforum.co....html

If you build up your own arms, it's possible to set them up for any camber range you could need.

As a side note, the method that Skunk uses for clamping the sliding ball joint assembly is better than what Vision is using for several reasons. In reality, the configuration of the vision is pretty much the same as the "old design" Skunk units.

Another side note is that the arms will not solve the problem with clearance with the inner fender and if it's planned to be used on a car that is lowered a lot, you should "notch" the inner fender for proper clearance!!!

Wes

 

I just had a funny thought!!!

A good mig welder costs about $500 bucks.

If you think of the arms as costing $200 bucks a set to build and you can sell them for $500, that's a $300 profit.

If you sell two sets, the welder is paid for and still have $100 bucks to take the girlfriend out for dinner.

Wes

 

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Well 90-91 have pressed joints, but some 88-89 have pressed but most ive seen are welded in.

 

its true, but honda and auto parts stores usually try and sell you a new arm...nobody wants to deal with pressing new ball joints in it seems.

 

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Just look around. I bought my Vision arms on HT for 300 ... and 2 weeks later JHP had them on sale for 285. They are a world better than the press in SPC adjustable ball joints that I had before that. The Vision arms are braced on the underside as well.

 

What about these guys. Complete EF kit at a fair price and reasonable shipping http://store.racinglab.com/ho88cispsuca.html

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Wes V &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just had a funny thought!!!

A good mig welder costs about $500 bucks.

If you think of the arms as costing $200 bucks a set to build and you can sell them for $500, that's a $300 profit.

If you sell two sets, the welder is paid for and still have $100 bucks to take the girlfriend out for dinner.

Wes</TD></TR></TABLE>

why not setup shop wes? youd sell at least a few before the others started coming out with EF products. i know of a few ppl interested already.

 

There are a couple reasons why I'm not building them and selling them.

1. It's just a hobby for me!

2. Liability!!!

3. In my mind, the arms only address <U>one</U> of the problems with a car that is lowered a lot. Even though it's easy to make an arm that is adjustable within any range desired, you still have to face the clearance problems with the upper "frame" member that is presented as the inner fender. The solution here would be to cut out that area and box it. I'm not interested in doing this due to not feeling the need to have the car that low (I'm old, for those that don't know).

So, it's possible to modify the car and arms to lower the car as much as you could want, but you would end up bottoming other areas of the car all the time (headers or oil pan). It's not something I'd want on my street car. I can understand the interest of others in doing this. BTDT, take a look at how low the 510 is in my avitar!

In regards to the fact that Vision welds in lower "gusset" plates. The Skunk2 arms I purchased also had them and I don't personally see the need. (I'm a licensed Engineer in Calif) They would be easy to add.

Wes

 

you know, it doesnt even come to mind that adjusting camber equates to being able to lower the suspension to me anyway, and nor would it to the few ppl ive talked to interested in it. the ability to adjust camber on its own, especially a few degrees MORE negative, independent of ride height is really the key.