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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 01:11 PM
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Hey guys i just recently took off the side panel moldings on my integra. There is now 6 little square holes on each side. Ive been told to weld little pieces of metal then fill em and smooth(grind) em out. problem is i dont weld ****. Anyone know of where i can go to get this done. Im located in So Cal so its gata be close. thanks (a shot in the dark).

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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 01:17 PM
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Most body shops should be able to do that for you...or if you have a friend who can weld, it's a pita though as you weld the metal will bend and you have to straighten it back out.
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 02:28 PM
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if you wanted to do them yourself you could rough up the back side of the hole with some 40 grit and then put some fiberglass mat soaked in resin on from the back side. then rough up the front and put some fiberglass reinforced filler in the hole. finish sanding smooth with a good quality body filler and some high build primer (ppg omni is cheap and good). a fiberglass repair kit can be bought at homo-depot for about $7-8.
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 03:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by quickersol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you wanted to do them yourself you could rough up the back side of the hole with some 40 grit and then put some fiberglass mat soaked in resin on from the back side. then rough up the front and put some fiberglass reinforced filler in the hole. finish sanding smooth with a good quality body filler and some high build primer (ppg omni is cheap and good). a fiberglass repair kit can be bought at homo-depot for about $7-8.</TD></TR></TABLE>

this is an ok idea for someoen low on funds and it is simple and because the wholes are small they should be fine, i personally welded mine

i put little squares behind and welded from the front to tach it in a cpl places, then tapped the metal from behind to fill in as much as possible then filled wih body filler
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 05:40 PM
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thats what i dont understand tho .. how do you weld them to the back ??? You can barley get access behind there let alone get a welder in there ??? Does one person hold it from the back while another welds from the front ???
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 05:45 PM
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get a washer the size of the hole and tack a little piece of wire or rod to it on the inside edge for a handle. (or you could cut out little squares if you want )

hold it in the hole. tack in place, clip off wire handle. fill middle of washer and immediately paint with pink wrinkle finish.
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 06:03 PM
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pink wrinkle finish?? what r u talking about haha ?
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 10:01 PM
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fiberglass matting will tend to seperate from metal with enough hot/cold cycles. different rates of thermal expansion constantly working the bonds apart. its ghetto, but ive seen them ground bare, dented by holding a ball peen in place and striking with another hammer, cleaned to death, and filled with a high quality shreaded fiberglass filler.
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 11:12 PM
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im still confused .. not to worried about the process but focused on finding a place that will do it around So Cal.
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Old Jan 24, 2005 | 08:36 AM
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easiest way would be to buy a sheet of aluminum and cut it into 1 inchx1inch squares. Then jb weld each piece behind the holes and let it sit overnight. Then fill it up with bondo and smooth it out. I did this same process with a couple of my friends' cars (tegs and accords). It's been around 2 years and still holds up. It's a cheap and nice DIY!!!
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Old Jan 24, 2005 | 01:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SPOONup &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im still confused .. not to worried about the process but focused on finding a place that will do it around So Cal.</TD></TR></TABLE>

bring it to a body shop and say 'do it right' problem solved, ANY body shop can do it.
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Old Jan 24, 2005 | 05:27 PM
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Tack small pieces on the inside, DO NOT TRY AND WELD IT SOLID OR IT WILL WARP BADLY... then fill the small recess on the outside with bondo or fiberglass.
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Old Jan 24, 2005 | 08:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rhdune16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">easiest way would be to buy a sheet of aluminum and cut it into 1 inchx1inch squares. Then jb weld each piece behind the holes and let it sit overnight. Then fill it up with bondo and smooth it out. I did this same process with a couple of my friends' cars (tegs and accords). It's been around 2 years and still holds up. It's a cheap and nice DIY!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Me and a friend did the same thing with the holes, JB welded them. It holds fine and its been so far 6 month. Only problem was that we didnt ahve the right mixture so we spent way to much time holding the peices in place because it started to sag and fall.
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Old Jan 25, 2005 | 01:58 AM
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im sorry guys, but JB weld has no place in body work. saving $50 now to maybe spend a lot more when they pop out and ruin a paintjob isnt wise IMO.
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 04:09 PM
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Jeez you suck maybe you should just go to a body and have them do it. Then you can finish your car already
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 05:41 PM
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dont weld or tack PLEASE !
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 12:51 AM
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welding will warp the door
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 03:44 AM
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lol... first off.. don't comment unless you have done this. welding sucks.. it warps the metal, and it ends up looking like ****. The best is simply jb weld the plates on the back. Everyone that has experince does this now.. end of story. Do it yourself..
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 07:28 AM
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Here is a link showing how to do it correctly;

http://www.performanceforum.co....html

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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 08:24 AM
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dont comment on why not to weld, unless you know how to weld.

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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 02:11 PM
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heres how mine looks like....


made little squares to fit the hole... tacked in place

then a glaze was used to fill the little crevices, sanded it, spray gluide coat, sanded it, so on and so on to get it level with the rest of the 1/4 panel. barely any body filler/glaze was even used. the car came out perfect.
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 02:15 PM
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mine (before i figured out how to weld good )

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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 03:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike_belben@yahoo.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont comment on why not to weld, unless you know how to weld.

</TD></TR></TABLE> No ****, to do it the right way you would weld pieces in place like shown above, grind, apply filler, sand, prime, sand and then paint. Keep in mind they will have to paint the majority of the car so it wont be cheap. And please for other users sake don't comment unless you know what the **** you are talking about.
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 04:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Engloid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Tack small pieces on the inside, DO NOT TRY AND WELD IT SOLID OR IT WILL WARP BADLY... then fill the small recess on the outside with bondo or fiberglass.
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thats what i did to my 89 hatch side molding.......turned out very nice
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 05:07 PM
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it wont warp the body if you do it right, just gap weld it then grind it down, be sure to keep the body nice and cool though
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