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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 04:12 PM
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Hey i just swapped b16a2 into 92 si
and tried starting it and it doesnt

the engine turns over when you turn the key but not firing

the main relay clicks and fuel pump turns on

i got spark from the distributor and my timing belt looks right to me

showing voltage on the injectors and injector plugs

after cranking after couple times it dont start still
i got fuel pressure by fuel filter and regulator

but i dont have fuel in the cylinders

i will try the starting fluid and let you know how that works

any help appricated

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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 04:30 PM
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oh yeah checked voltage from ecu plugs to the injector plugs on all four of them its show that it has voltage
and i have 2 p28 ecu
one of them is working for sure cause i had it on the last swap

and after cranking there is no fuel or even smell on the spark plugs
spark plugs are new
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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 07:07 PM
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ppl help
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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 07:17 PM
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what do you mean you got spark from distributor? How did you evaluate it? the old spark plug wire to a metal bolt? I hope not. That ol' trick can't tell you exactlly how much voltage is getting to the plugs. I'm pointing towards a possible ignition problem. either bad distributor, internal parts damaged, or ignitor going bad.
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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 09:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sleeperciv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what do you mean you got spark from distributor? How did you evaluate it? the old spark plug wire to a metal bolt? I hope not. That ol' trick can't tell you exactlly how much voltage is getting to the plugs. I'm pointing towards a possible ignition problem. either bad distributor, internal parts damaged, or ignitor going bad.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the distributor is good for sure it came off a low miles engine and i opended that up as well and everything was good
and you can actually see the spark when you crank it


the fact is the injectors arent spraying
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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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6 ECT - water temperature sensor
10 IAT - intake air temperature sensor
15 Ignition output signal
22 VTEC pressure valve

i got these cel codes
the 22 vtec one i think its just hasnt built enough oil pressure to work cause it never ran yet

10 iat i got the sensor from b16a3 and plugged it in

15 the distributor gives spark
but no fuel through the injectors

anyone know if any of these cel codes have to do with my problem
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Old Jan 22, 2005 | 01:18 AM
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need to get my hatch running


cause i just blew my headgasket on my coupe
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Old Jan 22, 2005 | 11:43 AM
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BUMP
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Old Jan 22, 2005 | 05:19 PM
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ANYBODY??????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????
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Old Jan 22, 2005 | 08:37 PM
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have u checked all the fuse's under the dash?mine did the same thing and it came out to b one of the fuse blown
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Old Jan 22, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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checked all of them under the hood and under the dash they all look good to me
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Old Jan 22, 2005 | 10:05 PM
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here is a pic of the motor in my eg
it was taken 3 days ago
no dizzy no header
right now its all there and hooked up

BUMP PPL I NEED SOME help
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 12:33 AM
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grounds are all there
everything is hooked
exept im not getting fuel from injectors
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 01:06 AM
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is the engine harness grounded?
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 01:11 AM
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are you getting any fuel in the rail? try taking off the return line and turn the ignition to the on position and see if fuel is going thru. if you get fuel from the return line then maybe the injectors are clogged. if not maybe your fuel filter is clogged. that's all i can think of
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 01:12 AM
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did you check the fuel pump, making sure it's actually pumping?
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 06:34 AM
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chk your firing order chk all the fuses and post some update pics of where your at right now in the swap so we can help you better
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 07:17 AM
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bump for you i'd try checking the order of your sparkplug wires
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 09:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itsJDMyo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">bump for you i'd try checking the order of your sparkplug wires</TD></TR></TABLE>

I was going to say the same thing... 1-3-4-2 starting at bottom left of distributor going clockwise. And the cylinders are number with one being closest to timing belt.
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 10:35 AM
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Turn your key to the ON position. Do you hear the master relay clicking and the fuel pump priming for 2 seconds?
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 11:23 AM
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try replacing your ecu
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 01:38 PM
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Reread the post you're using obd-1 injectors correct? Have you tried swapping in different injectors?
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 01:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is the engine harness grounded?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes i got all grounds on it
tranny ground, valve cover ground, thremostat ground

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are you getting any fuel in the rail? try taking off the return line and turn the ignition to the on position and see if fuel is going thru. if you get fuel from the return line then maybe the injectors are clogged. if not maybe your fuel filter is clogged. that's all i can think of
good luck</TD></TR></TABLE>

i do have fuel pressure in the fuel rail
everytime i release it and then crank the car again
it builds up again


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">d you check the fuel pump, making sure it's actually pumping?</TD></TR></TABLE>

it does pump
old single cam engine was working off of it


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">chk your firing order chk all the fuses and post some update pics of where your at right now in the swap so we can help you better</TD></TR></TABLE>

the firing order looks good to me
1342

it gives spark
i got no fuel thru injectors

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">try replacing your ecu</TD></TR></TABLE>
did that as well
and old engine ran off the ecu that i have right now


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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 02:27 PM
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Try swapping the injectors from your old motor over. They're 240cc so they'll work fine on the b16. You did convert everything over to obd-1 correct? Distributor, all sensors?
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RedlinedVTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Try swapping the injectors from your old motor over. They're 240cc so they'll work fine on the b16. You did convert everything over to obd-1 correct? Distributor, all sensors?</TD></TR></TABLE>

already swapped the injctors
i did convert the distributor plugs
but those are all the same color so just slice them and match them
nothing complicated there
the alternator from obd1 engine and so are the injectors from obd1 b16a3
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