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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 09:19 AM
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Default what psi? Msd boost ignition retard to make safer?

can anyone give me a rough idea what psi i will need to run to make 280-300 whp on the set up below. I only want a rough idea as i know how hard it is as there are many variables.

B16a1
T3 super 60
equal length mani
Arias 9:1 pistons
Crower steel rods
afc hack tuned on incar wideband
450 dsm's
2 1/4 inch exhaust no center box only the back box (no cat either)
All new bearings


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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 09:26 AM
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Default Re: what psi? (crispydee)

on a t3 super 60, i'd guess about 15 or more
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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 11:10 AM
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yeah thats about what i was thinking, any opinions about how safe this will be as a daily runner or should i drop it to mid 200's I am pretty limited on the tuning side (afc) but i do have wideband.
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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 11:51 AM
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Default Re: what psi? (crispydee)

What motor?
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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 11:55 AM
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btw, ditch the afc
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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 12:34 PM
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Default Re: what psi? (wantboost)

Sorry its a B16a1. Ive not got many other options other than the afc at the moment. Its odb0 and hondata is mega money to buy here and a lot to ship from the states. I should have the money in a few months tho i hope. I was thinking about swapping to odb1 and using urberdata.
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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 12:36 PM
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it all depends on if you can find somebody that can tune real good you can probably break the 300hp mark around 14 pounds.
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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 12:44 PM
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Default Re: what psi? (crispydee)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crispydee &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sorry its a B16a1. Ive not got many other options other than the afc at the moment. Its odb0 and hondata is mega money to buy here and a lot to ship from the states. I should have the money in a few months tho i hope. I was thinking about swapping to odb1 and using urberdata.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Keep OBD0 and go turbo edit, that's what I'm doing. Contact Chris at http://www.xenocron.com and have him socket your ecu along with a base map($75, but don't boost on TE before you tune). Then talk to a local dyno tuner and ask them if they can tune with Turbo Edit (www.turboedit.org). Most tuners have just never used it but if they can tune a hondata, they should be able to figure it out quick($200-300). Like they said lose the AFC or FMU, you're gonna blow your motor that way. GL!

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Old Jan 22, 2005 | 02:37 AM
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Default Re: what psi? (ncervantes)

Right im looking into turboedit but will it work on a euro pw0 ecu? they dont have the knock sensor inputs so jdm chips dont look in the euro ecu
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Old Jan 22, 2005 | 06:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crispydee &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Right im looking into turboedit but will it work on a euro pw0 ecu? they dont have the knock sensor inputs so jdm chips dont look in the euro ecu</TD></TR></TABLE>

I honestly don't know if the PW0 will work but seriously contact http://www.xenocron.com. Chris is cool as hell and will answer ANY questions you have. GL!

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Old Jan 25, 2005 | 09:43 PM
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Default Re: what psi? (ncervantes)

Ok, done some reading and sent some emails, with out swapping to odb1 i am stuck with the hack.
Its not cheap to do in the UK as the dizzy's are really hard to get hold of and are very expensive, as are the ecu's and the shipping cost is too much to get it all from the US.
Say i kept the afc but got an MSD ignition retarder, the one that you set to retard the ignition X amount with each psi of boost it means i dont have to pull so much base timing and it will make it a lot safer on boost right?
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