Hey all.

I searched for info, but nothing was to clear on what I need.

I got a 91 Civic DX Hatch, Can't use those axels with the ZC Tranny.

So I think I need teg axels with some intermediate shaft.

True???

 

that is correct, i used 90-91 integra axles and hubs with the zc intermediate shaft for my ZC trans.

 

90-93 non abs Integra axles with a 90-93 Integra midshaft

 

theres another option

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1118506

 

OK, I also read that I could use a 86-89 Teg Intermediate Shaft. Is this true?

I've just been getting burnt on this car. Everything is a problem, and this is the last step to getting it going. I wanna make sure I don't buy anything that won't fit.

Thanks guys.... Waiting for replies

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Double_Dk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OK, I also read that I could use a 86-89 Teg Intermediate Shaft. Is this true?

I've just been getting burnt on this car. Everything is a problem, and this is the last step to getting it going. I wanna make sure I don't buy anything that won't fit.

Thanks guys.... Waiting for replies</TD></TR></TABLE>
not true - the only intermediate shaft that works is the ZC intermediate shaft with 90-93 Integra axles - there has been some discussion that the intermediate shaft from 88-91 Civic AWD wagon will work, but we have never had one to actually try it

 

well if u dont want to get burned , then call the driveshaftshop they custom make zc axels to fit.
i have the stage one axles for mine and i couldnt be happier!! they fit perfect weigh the same on each side better joints and boots, and i dont have to worry about finding a intermefiate shaft!
very plug and play , band new and will last longer for the price
jc

 

I've compared the 4wd wagon and a ZC...the over all dimensions and bolt battern are the same and it does physically fit the differential/seal on a ZC. But some of the collars and spline lengths are different enough that we didn't bother trying to test fit.

Now, if the wagon axles will work on a ZC equipped CRX, it still might work.

And for clarification, I'm not suggesting Double DK try and figure it out.

Tried and true configuration...ZC intermediate shaft, 90-93 non-ABS teg axles.

 

if you want to run equal length axles-

zc i-shaft

2 right/passenger side crx axles with 90-93 integra inner joints

i personally run this setup and have had no problems

if you cant find a zc ishaft

use the stock crx axles but have 90-93 integra inner joints put on them


http://home.wideopenwest.com/~tschmidt/

here is reference to using 90-93 teg axles...dust rings have to be removed

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VTeC4TheChildren &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you want to run equal length axles-

zc i-shaft

2 right/passenger side crx axles with 90-93 integra inner joints

i personally run this setup and have had no problems

if you cant find a zc ishaft

use the stock crx axles but have 90-93 integra inner joints put on them


http://home.wideopenwest.com/~tschmidt/

here is reference to using 90-93 teg axles...dust rings have to be removed
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the right and left side integra axles are different - the left side that goes into the intermediate shaft have splines full length of the part that goes into the shaft - the right side has shorter splines and a smooth area where the seal in the transmission rides

 

So from what I'm reading then, I need the following


1 ZC i-shaft
1 left 90-93 Teg axel
1 right 90-93 Teg axel

Will those axels fit into the brake assembly? Or will I have to change that to?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Double_Dk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So from what I'm reading then, I need the following


1 ZC i-shaft
1 left 90-93 Teg axel
1 right 90-93 Teg axel

Will those axels fit into the brake assembly? Or will I have to change that to?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't mean to threadjack, but now since that question was answered, I have one also. I was thinking about calling hmotors and ordering my ZC engine/tranny tomorrow.

In the "other option" thread it said that you can deal w/hmotors for an intermediate shaft. *phew* one less thing I have to shop around for. Now, do they also deal with ZC axles? If they do, would it be better to just use those or do core charge and get newer ones? If not then should I buy new for the peace of mind or would I be better off getting some 90-93 teg axles from a junkyard? I prolly wouldn't mind just paying the $100 per axle if it meant knowing it's not going to snap launching into traffic one day, I'm just wondering what you have done or would recommend.

As for the brake assembly thing, I haven't heard of having to change that before, so I think you're good. I believe it's just plug and play.

 

I think they charge like 75 bucks for axles and they will work fine in your 4th gen.

 

Last question. Assuming I have to name my own price for intermediate shaft... How much is something like that? I have no idea.

 

I think i got the intermediate shaft from hmotors for about $50 and i got the integra hub assemble for another $75. I would suggest getting the integra hubs and rotors or at least Si hubs and rotors to complement the added power.

 

Will my DX ones work tho?

 

If I'm correct, HF and STD ones need to be changed out, as they are too small to accomodate the integra axles, but dx and SI ones are good to go. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 31flavorscivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If I'm correct, HF and STD ones need to be changed out, as they are too small to accomodate the integra axles, but dx and SI ones are good to go. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Is this true?

 

i have an si and after removing the dust caps the teg axles work great

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bluecrxsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have an si and after removing the dust caps the teg axles work great</TD></TR></TABLE>


So you are running 90-93 Teg axels with your stock SI hubs Minus the dust covers?

Also, do they need to be GSR axels, or are all 90-93 axels the same

 

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Is this true?</TD></TR></TABLE>

YES

 

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So you are running 90-93 Teg axels with your stock SI hubs Minus the dust covers?

Also, do they need to be GSR axels, or are all 90-93 axels the same</TD></TR></TABLE>

90-93 teg axles are basically the same, and it doesnt matter if they have the ABS ring on them cuz u can just knock those off. Just dont get 94+ integra axles.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 31flavorscivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Last question. Assuming I have to name my own price for intermediate shaft... How much is something like that? I have no idea.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thank you guys for all the help. Called Hmotors and ordered all my stuff tonite . Bought engine + 5speed + int.shaft + axles. Intermediate shaft was 75, both axles were $100. Got everything for the swap minus the ecu (backorder for a month) for $974 shipped to my work. to steve for the excellent personalized service he gave me while ordering. I can see why people say he goes the extra mile for his customers. Being shipped out next friday, as their cargo container w/ more engines arrives then, ZC's w/ tranny were backordered till then.

This swap for me was a big deal just wanted to share my good experience while ordering

 

OK,

I've found 5 web pages supporting both, so I need to know.

Can I use a 86-89 Teg Intermediate Shaft or do I need a ZC Intermediate shaft.

I wish every web page had their stories the same

 

NO YOU CAN NOT USE 86-89 I SHAFT

DX and SI HUBS are IDENTICAL

Any Integra Axles 90-93 will Fit Dx and Si Hubs with removal of Dust Ring

94+ Teg Axles will not work