? on intakes on R's
I had a quick(dumb) question about what the best intake for an itr is.I have heard that the factory with a drop in filter is the best but was not sure.???
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 10K4U »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had a quick(dumb) question about what the best intake for an itr is.I have heard that the factory with a drop in filter is the best but was not sure.??? </TD></TR></TABLE>
well, many people start off with the AEM cold air system. lots of people say its junk and you have to becarefull of water and this intake will make you lose power everywere down low. only good after vtec. I would have to say I agree.
now if you want to spend alot of money you can buy the Mugen intake. But you have to ask your self is the few extra horse worth allllllll that money.
the comptec ice box is good. but if you look at its design its the same as your factory intake. what i did was modify my stock intake tube that come out of the bottom of the box so that it looks and functions just like the "Ice box" I also just TODAY actually installed the factory K&N drop in filter.
The car feels like it is very tourqy at lower RPM's were the AEM didnt. After v-tec the car pulls just as hard if not harder than the AEM set up. Now this is my butt dyno of course, i will have to get some numbers up here soon.
But for about an hours worth of work and some duct tape you can modify yours to function just like the Ice box, and you dont have to spend the money. all you need is the drop in K&N.
also note. that there are some racing teams that use the ITR's stock intake setup. "This is because if you modify it, it works. just like the Ice box and or Mugen"
Does anyone have some input on my opinion here.?
well, many people start off with the AEM cold air system. lots of people say its junk and you have to becarefull of water and this intake will make you lose power everywere down low. only good after vtec. I would have to say I agree.
now if you want to spend alot of money you can buy the Mugen intake. But you have to ask your self is the few extra horse worth allllllll that money.
the comptec ice box is good. but if you look at its design its the same as your factory intake. what i did was modify my stock intake tube that come out of the bottom of the box so that it looks and functions just like the "Ice box" I also just TODAY actually installed the factory K&N drop in filter.
The car feels like it is very tourqy at lower RPM's were the AEM didnt. After v-tec the car pulls just as hard if not harder than the AEM set up. Now this is my butt dyno of course, i will have to get some numbers up here soon.
But for about an hours worth of work and some duct tape you can modify yours to function just like the Ice box, and you dont have to spend the money. all you need is the drop in K&N.
also note. that there are some racing teams that use the ITR's stock intake setup. "This is because if you modify it, it works. just like the Ice box and or Mugen"
Does anyone have some input on my opinion here.?
Yup, Mugen is best hands down. I've been through AEM, Apexi, J's and some other ones. Mugen provided best throttle response while maintint good power all around.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 10K4U »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had a quick(dumb) question about what the best intake for an itr is.I have heard that the factory with a drop in filter is the best but was not sure.??? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Don't get AEM CAI for an ITR, IMHO. Although it produces great results on the GS-R, it just doesn't do well on the ITR, and appears to actually lose HP on a dyno compared to the OEM CAI.
In dyno tests, the intake that produces the most HP is a short stick with a filter on the end of it. However, this might not be the best solution for you on the road, and Mugen and Comptech will tell you that on the road you have advantages with a CAI that contradict the dyno results.
Best dyno results but at a price, as others have said: Mugen.
Also showing good gains on the dyno: J's Racing (air's drawn from engine bay) and Comptech Icebox (air's drawn from behind turn signal).
Don't get AEM CAI for an ITR, IMHO. Although it produces great results on the GS-R, it just doesn't do well on the ITR, and appears to actually lose HP on a dyno compared to the OEM CAI.
In dyno tests, the intake that produces the most HP is a short stick with a filter on the end of it. However, this might not be the best solution for you on the road, and Mugen and Comptech will tell you that on the road you have advantages with a CAI that contradict the dyno results.
Best dyno results but at a price, as others have said: Mugen.
Also showing good gains on the dyno: J's Racing (air's drawn from engine bay) and Comptech Icebox (air's drawn from behind turn signal).
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Don't get AEM CAI for an ITR, IMHO. Although it produces great results on the GS-R, it just doesn't do well on the ITR, and appears to actually lose HP on a dyno compared to the OEM CAI.
In dyno tests, the intake that produces the most HP is a short stick with a filter on the end of it. However, this might not be the best solution for you on the road, and Mugen and Comptech will tell you that on the road you have advantages with a CAI that contradict the dyno results.
Best dyno results but at a price, as others have said: Mugen.
Also showing good gains on the dyno: J's Racing (air's drawn from engine bay) and Comptech Icebox (air's drawn from behind turn signal).</TD></TR></TABLE>
B19coupe dyno'd the AEM CAI for the ITR against the J's and the AEM came out on top. I know it's just one dyno but have seen a few others. Remember that SRI's suffer from heatsoak as well.
I would rather have an intake that performs better while driving(when it's needed) then one that performs better on a dyno but worse on the street when the hood is closed.
Just my honest opinion
Don't get AEM CAI for an ITR, IMHO. Although it produces great results on the GS-R, it just doesn't do well on the ITR, and appears to actually lose HP on a dyno compared to the OEM CAI.
In dyno tests, the intake that produces the most HP is a short stick with a filter on the end of it. However, this might not be the best solution for you on the road, and Mugen and Comptech will tell you that on the road you have advantages with a CAI that contradict the dyno results.
Best dyno results but at a price, as others have said: Mugen.
Also showing good gains on the dyno: J's Racing (air's drawn from engine bay) and Comptech Icebox (air's drawn from behind turn signal).</TD></TR></TABLE>
B19coupe dyno'd the AEM CAI for the ITR against the J's and the AEM came out on top. I know it's just one dyno but have seen a few others. Remember that SRI's suffer from heatsoak as well.
I would rather have an intake that performs better while driving(when it's needed) then one that performs better on a dyno but worse on the street when the hood is closed.
Just my honest opinion
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i would go with aem. who needs low end torque... produces good numbers when vtec hits and it does its job. i went to the track and withthe stock intake i did a 14.5 at 94mph. with the same 60ft and an aem cai i did a 14.2 at 97mph. thats all i have to say..
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by danny98r »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> who needs low end torque.....</TD></TR></TABLE>
Who needs low end torque? Are you stupid?
The thing most hondas lack is good low end torque which is why we do what we can to increase low end torque. Especially if someone like you, who drags his car apparently wants a better drag time, your going to need low end torque off the line.
Torque wins races, not always most HP there buddy.
Who needs low end torque? Are you stupid?
The thing most hondas lack is good low end torque which is why we do what we can to increase low end torque. Especially if someone like you, who drags his car apparently wants a better drag time, your going to need low end torque off the line.
Torque wins races, not always most HP there buddy.
People get too fixated on intakes. Just buy an intake, and start worrying about how to make REAL power with hotter cams, bigger intake manifolds, and proper exhaust sizing....
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Good call. All though I don't think worry about a better intake manifold is somethign to worry about for a while either. The R's is pretty good stock. Cams/gears and proper exhaust.
Good call. All though I don't think worry about a better intake manifold is somethign to worry about for a while either. The R's is pretty good stock. Cams/gears and proper exhaust.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B2FiNiTY »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The reason people are so "fixated" on intakes is because it is one of the cheaper mods to increase power and is also one of the easier ones to install. </TD></TR></TABLE>
good call. If I decide to get a better header I would have to think about a better intake probably even thoguh the injen short ram is good for my set up
good call. If I decide to get a better header I would have to think about a better intake probably even thoguh the injen short ram is good for my set up
thanks for the input
.I not really worried about the money issue as much as I am about the peformance aspect.I am probly going to keep the motor alone due to the fact the problems Ive had in the past with all motor set ups.But I wasnt positive about the best intake to use was I guess It just comes down to pesonal pref.But I have been told by gordon and steve s that the best power they have gotten was from the oem itr intake tube.Ill prob just take it to inlines dyno and figure it out myself.
Thanks for the help!!!!
.I not really worried about the money issue as much as I am about the peformance aspect.I am probly going to keep the motor alone due to the fact the problems Ive had in the past with all motor set ups.But I wasnt positive about the best intake to use was I guess It just comes down to pesonal pref.But I have been told by gordon and steve s that the best power they have gotten was from the oem itr intake tube.Ill prob just take it to inlines dyno and figure it out myself.Thanks for the help!!!!
i had the j's racing intake on for awhile but took it off because of slight fitment issues.. it bugged me that it rubbed on the strut bar and hits the AC lines... i have the AEM CAI on my ITR now.. the j's has better throttle response and is a lot louder when vtec hits.. i'd go back to the J's intake if it fit a little better..
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