alright, just a general question. who is running a grounding kit ... i.e. sun auto's hyper ground kit.

so .... who is running one, what are you running, and does it really help?

 

do a search. this subject has been covered many times.

it can help, but its not worth the money you would spend for a pre-made kit. your better off going to a car audio shop, buying the wire and ring terminals and doing it yourself.

 

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yeah sorry, i didnt have much time to search earlier when i was at the computer. ill search more. but thanks for the tip on just going to an audio store. only reason i asked is because i was reading about sun auto's product in a honda tuning mag. didnt know if it was worth it. says it has a booster and **** like that.

 

I made my own upgrades, going to add more eventually.

I have a upgraded negative battery terminal, with high strand 4ga wire and copper plates ring terminal, for my battery ground.

For my Valvecover-&gt;Radiator support, I used a run of 12ga twisted pair speaker wire (its the positive and negative confined to one jacket), so collectively, i'm using 6ga there I guess you could say. I plan on adding at least one more upgrade.

Here are the differences that I notice. My lights don't dim anymore at idle. And it idles slightly smoother.

 

Hopefully I'll try this over the weekend, its something ive been meaning to do for ages.

Any suggestions on what gauge cable to use?

 

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Any suggestions on what gauge cable to use?

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4 ga for your major grounds(battery to body, body to transmission, engine to body) after that 8ga is fine. also try to clean the contact points as much as possible. you can usualy fine those small brass brush's for like 1$ at hardware store, the ones that go into a drill. those are great for cleaning contact patch's. you wanna see bare metal.

 

I think those grounding kits are such a rip off. 60 bucks for a box of wires.

 

U can make your own for &lt;$20 with nice audio power cable and 'gold' plated ring terminals, even if u dont gain anything, at least it looks better.

 

Waste of money. They only help you regain power you had already but lost due to a decaying ground.

 

I upgraded my gound kit with 12g because i think anything above that is too large except for the battery. I grounded at the valve cover, tranny, intake manifold, vtec solenoid. i ran them in parallel to, i think, a 6g wire and connected that to where my battery is grounded. i noticed smoother idle, less dimming of the lights, quick startup. for around $20-30 it was worth it to me, i got everything at home depot.

 

I'm running the aerospeed grounding kit. Smoother idle, a little better throttle response down low; do a search; some guy in the type r forums picked up 7 hp from his kit. I think the avaerage is more like ~3hp; if your lucky, 5hp. I did it more so that my car would be properly grounded

 

You don't make new power, you just gain back lost power from shitty grounds that deteriorated. Save your money and buy something that DOES increase power output, not a gimmicky piece of wire.

 

after reading all of these posts, i would simply like to do this for the fact that my car would be better grounded and other wires would be newer. it is a 95 and it wouldnt hurt to replace some older things that may be robbing power. not hp persay but electrical also.

does anyone have pix of what they have done with stereo wire or wire from a home depot type place? and should i get a gold battery terminal or a bigger one?

i just need a few more tips on what all i need to make my own kit and make the best of it.

 

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Ok guy... whats wrong with freeing up power thats been lost due to a secondary reason, Especially when you can do it for &lt;$20 yourself. Isnt that why we change our plugs, wires, and distributor cap, etc? The old ones dont perform like they use to, so we replace and/or upgrade. Even if you dont free up lost hp/tq, it lets your electrical system opperate more efficiently, which is why the headlights dont dim as much, and the idle is slightly smoother.

 

Dont listen to the **** that say they are worthless....Its a general law of electrical circuits..the better grounded something electrical is, the less resistance to electricity it will have/ the more responsive it will be.

 

i fo8und some 8awg from old stereo setups and ****. i got about a cars length of it. guess it was my power wire sometime ago. is that enough? and what all should i replace?

 

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I've never even seen a dyno proving these make ANY power. So how about you prove to us you're developing more HP afterwards? Get a few dyno runs now to establish a baseline, install your kit, then get back on the dyno a few more times. I guarantee you there will be no difference.

But if your car feels faster after you drop some cash on an earthing kit, then all the power to ya.

 

im simply doing it to better ground my car and try to establish better electronical functions. everyone has said that their idle smoothes out after installation, well i at least want that done because i idle way too high at start up and harder starts when its colder (i know thats mostly the battery) but even still.

 

its not always about power, but efficiency.

i wouldnt use anything thinner then 4ga for your main grounds. for little ones like vavle cover to body you can use 8ga.

 

4awg for big stuff, 8awg for smaller ones. thanks

 

I read an article in a mag about 6 months back where they instlled the hyper ground kit and it made 7-10hp at the wheels. not sure what mag it was though, SCC, Superstreet, Import Tuner. I'll dig thru my collection and if I can find it I'll post which month it was so you can check it out. If you can add a little power and increase the efficiency of you electrical system for only $20, you might as well do it. I'm gonna make my own kit soon.

 

The mag is the August 03 edition of Import Tuner. The test car was an 92 AWD Eagle Talon turbo with intake and exhaust so it's numbers may be more or less for you depending on your set up. Here are their findings.

HP

2000 - 3500 rpm gained 0 to 3hp
3500 - 5500 rpm gained 6 to 16hp
5500 - redline (7500rpm) -3 to +8hp.

TQ

2000 - 3500 rpm gained 0 to 5
3500 - 5500 rpm gained 5 to 16
5500 - redline -2 to +9

You can't go wrong with these #'s and your only spending $20 on the DIY kit. Do a lot of research first though and make sure that your using the right gauge wire and that you are grounding it at the best spots of course. Good Luck.