tried searching.. but came up with 0.

Rob "search ****" keep quite

all i am interested in is which header would make more power on a stock setup .. and which would be better to have on the car once i start moding the car.

they are both around the same amount of money so lets leave that factor out .

thanks for the help guys....

 

I thought you were selling the car???

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KayOs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I thought you were selling the car???</TD></TR></TABLE>

Don't remind him... He's coming to the Expo... Opps I slipped

Can't find the great header test. uhmmmm

 

I know that the DC makes power but, the ground clearance is teh suck.

Can't go wrong with OEM Honda or the price.

 

Shame on me for reminding him. See you at expo Mike.

 

Approx. how much is the jdm 4-1 and the jdm dc?

 

new or used?
new 400 range
used from 200 up

 

It's been a while but I think I made 7whp more with the JDM DC 4-1 open header vs. the JDM ITR 4-1 open header. Average was 4whp across the band. The DC header does hang lower though.

 

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well its still for sale.. but I am not gonna say "I am keeping it" too many people have done that , then the car gets stolen.

 

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cool thanks man... you wouldnt happen to have any graphs would you?<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bbasso &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Don't remind him... He's coming to the Expo... Opps I slipped

Can't find the great header test. uhmmmm </TD></TR></TABLE>

well i found the header test thread.. but the JDM 4-1 was not tested... I am looking for a direct comparrison of the JDM DC 4-1 and the JDM 4-1 header.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mikestypeRR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i found the header test thread.. but the JDM 4-1 was not tested... I am looking for a direct comparrison of the JDM DC 4-1 and the JDM 4-1 header. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't recall ever seeing any direct comparison graphs between the two, but perhaps one will turn up. However, the fact that the DC Sports version has larger primaries, no inner welds on the flange, and a larger/better collector should allow it to out-perform the Honda piece.

 

If you don't plan on getting it tuned, what's the difference?

 

From Blueteg on Team-Integra

" They're actually more different than people think.
JDM DC Sports - 45mm primaries, primary tubes are stacked on top of each other "2 x 2" at the oil pan, 2.3" ID collector, unobtrusive welds at the head flange, collector design and contruction flows well, available in ceramic coated or stainless steel. Skid plate is not available for this unit.
JDM 98spec ITR header - 42mm primaries, primary tubes are staggered for better ground clearance at the oil pan, 2.1" ID collector, extremely obtrusive welds at the head flange, collector design and contruction is poor and has many spots that appear to restrict flow, only available in the uncoated steel. Skid plates which bolt to the oem heat shield locations are available.

The DC unit is really a copy cat of the more expensive Mugen 4-1 header."


Specs are better than "Yeah, I put it on and noticed mad gains!". It's better than "I gained 7 whp" also because that means nothing. Peak numbers are just for bragging rights. You want a header that will give you a nice broad powerband to go along with the gains.

 

I'd say get the JDM OEM 4-1 mostly because of fitment. OEM fits perfectly, while the JDM DC hangs below the oil pan AND angles up, making fitment with the cat/exhaust to be... lets just say not as good as the jdm oem.

chris - who has owned both and was very unhappy with the jdm dc fitment.

 

I went with the oem 4-1 just because of the skidplate.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris N &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> while the JDM DC hangs below the oil pan AND angles up, making fitment with the cat/exhaust to be... lets just say not as good as the jdm oem.

chris - who has owned both and was very unhappy with the jdm dc fitment.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I've never seen the fitment of the JDM R header, but I can understand what you're saying about the DC JDM hanging low. I've had mine on for about a year and 3k and I haven't had any problems with it scraping anywhere. *Knocks on wood*...but yeah, they both perform almost the exact same, so if you can get your hands on the OEM R one, get it.

The price that RJ is selling his for is very very good.

 

Mike, I had the JDM ITR on mine and Dustin (not sure if you remember him) had DC JDM ITR on his. I made 4 more whp on the same dyno on the same day

JDM ITR Header

Anything made by DC

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by People_Mover &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Mike, I had the JDM ITR on mine and Dustin (not sure if you remember him) had DC JDM ITR on his. I made 4 more whp on the same dyno on the same day

JDM ITR Header

Anything made by DC </TD></TR></TABLE>

Heatsoak? Tuning? I've seen dynos do back to back runs on the same car and get 4 whp difference...that doesn't really hold much water.

 

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Heatsoak? Tuning? I've seen dynos do back to back runs on the same car and get 4 whp difference...that doesn't really hold much water.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Agreed. The Honda ITR 4-1 does have it's advantages over the DC Sports JDM 4-1, but performance is almost certainly not one of them.

 

DC

 

http://www.lovefabinc.com/inde...id=13

This "header" is only $550, you'll make more power with it than any of that JDM crap

 

I couldn't find any measurements on that thing...any info on it?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JoNNiE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Approx. how much is the jdm 4-1 and the jdm dc?</TD></TR></TABLE>the jdm dc is a lot cheaper, i remember a h-t sponsor selling new ceramic ones for $225 shipped, i remember seeing the SS ones for $400, which is about the same price as the oem jdm piece.

 

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http://www.lovefabinc.com/inde...id=13

This "header" is only $550, you'll make more power with it than any of that JDM crap </TD></TR></TABLE>

This dude is a winner! A must stay around HT fo sheezy!

 

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http://www.lovefabinc.com/inde...id=13

This "header" is only $550, you'll make more power with it than any of that JDM crap </TD></TR></TABLE>

lol **** yeah.