Wiring up an outlet for a welder..

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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 07:37 PM
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thats me wearing a welding mask.

I have a chord that i cut off of a dryer - i want to be able to unplug my dryer and plug in this chord so that i have power to an outlet in the garege..

the problem is that my dryer uses 4 wires and the welder outlet only takes 3. i'm not sure if i should use red, black and bare(GND?) or red, black, white..?

also, the breaker is 40amp.. is that safe? it's one of the better lincoln welders.. i'll get the model # tomarrow if required.
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 07:59 PM
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use the black, red and bare wires....the bare and white go back to the same neutral bar in your panel, so it really doesnt matter which one you use.
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 10:17 PM
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my dad has owned his own electrical company for 30 some years...ive worked for him many times. so he got an answer from one.
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 10:27 PM
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Maybe I'm not following you well here, but it sounds as if you want to put a 4 prong plug into a 3 prong outlet.. not gonna happen without rigging something I'd call unsafe.

Go to Home Depot and buy the right stuff. It's about $13 for the outlet, and probably less for the Male end...and you'll only have to buy one of them to fit one of your parts.
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 10:57 PM
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sounds to me like hes making an adapter extension cord so he can still keep the dryer plugged in whenever he needs.
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 11:03 PM
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stupid unrelated question for C jackson. My house is old school and we dont have 220v outlets for dryers or stoves. Is the basic idea of getting 220v out of the breaker box, pulling out two hot wires? and the third wire would be a neutral?
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 09:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by c jackson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sounds to me like hes making an adapter extension cord so he can still keep the dryer plugged in whenever he needs. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly. I'm making a small extention chord for the welder - but the 'wall' happens to be a 4 prong - the other end will allow the 3 prong welder to be plugged in. Everything will be secure and safe.. and i already checked the gauge/vs length specs.

black, red and bare it is!

Is a 40amp breaker safe? i think it's a Lincoln SP-175.

Thanks for all your help.
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 08:11 PM
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use the red and black as your hot wires and the bare as the ground. Terminate the white wire properly. If you need anymore help, just ask
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 08:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by paul vang &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">use the red and black as your hot wires and the bare as the ground. Terminate the white wire properly. If you need anymore help, just ask</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks Again..

It's all installed guys... the white wire has a marrat and some electrical tape.. worked out pretty slick.

I was 99% sure about hooking it up that way but it's nice to get the HT seal of approval 240VAC sacres me
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 08:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eddiebx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stupid unrelated question for C jackson. My house is old school and we dont have 220v outlets for dryers or stoves. Is the basic idea of getting 220v out of the breaker box, pulling out two hot wires? and the third wire would be a neutral? </TD></TR></TABLE>

and a ground too for ultimate safety.
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 08:28 PM
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who needs grounds, , j/k
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