whats up guys i had a question about these tires...i currently have them on my ITR and there awsome, but my question might seem kinda dumb but anyways, i'm from ontario and our winter isn't too bad does driving around on my falkens in the cold winter do anything to them like cause damage or easier wear n tear????
by driving in the cold i mean the roads are clear but still cold as fawk.

 

Cold + azenis =

 

they will be fine - but don't expect them to grip as well, so drive accordingly.

 

i've been caught in the rain with my azenis a few times and i honestly can say i've never had a problem with them, SOOO driving my azenis on the cold streets wont wear n tear my tires up??

 

It shouldnt be any different. What are you expecting the tread blocks to tear off or something?

The Azenis in the rain comment is also . They're perfectly fine in the rain.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CDN Yellow ITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> SOOO driving my azenis on the cold streets wont wear n tear my tires up??</TD></TR></TABLE>

from my experience they tend to get hard and loose below 40 degrees.

They won't wear differently or ruin the tire itself, but I'd suggest something with a compound better suited to colder temps like an all season or especially a winter tire.

 

Didnt we just have this discussion last week?

Anyways, if I were living in Canada and needed to daily drive my R, there would be no way in hell Id be running Azenis...you wont damage the tires...but you might damage the car!


Modified by JETydosa at 2:30 PM 1/12/2005

 

Just remember the Azenis are summer, sport tires. As long as you drive sensibly in the winter, you should have no problems.

 

Falken Azenis are great in the summer but for those of us that have the freeze-snowy winters should consider a different set of tires for the winter. (just my 2cent)

 

thx for all the feed back guys!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Flux &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they will be fine - but don't expect them to grip as well, so drive accordingly.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

Just like other said, Azenis + cold/wet weather is very bad if you mess around.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 99SiRacer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just like other said, Azenis + cold/wet weather is very bad if you mess around.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh no.. what's an Azeni? I should check to see if I got it on my car.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ferrell &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Cold + azenis = </TD></TR></TABLE>

More like... Rain + Azenis =

My friend spun out with Azenis on the highway. He was driving 70mph and he hit a puddle of water that built up on the left side.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WhoisDan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

More like... Rain + Azenis =

My friend spun out with Azenis on the highway. He was driving 70mph and he hit a puddle of water that built up on the left side.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I've driven in tons of rain and cold weather on my azenis and never had any problems, but I had to drive on them in snow once, and that was kinda sketchy...

 

I was just in Winnipeg with the -27C weather...there would be no way in America that I'd drive my R in that type of weather...let alone on Azenis. My wife asked me if my R would be able to handle the roads in Winnepeg...I just looked at her and said that I wouldn't even dare drive it there in the winter.

Alan

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01TypeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was just in Winnipeg with the -27C weather...there would be no way in America that I'd drive my R in that type of weather...let alone on Azenis. My wife asked me if my R would be able to handle the roads in Winnepeg...I just looked at her and said that I wouldn't even dare drive it there in the winter.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The ITR can handle cold winter weather as well as any FWD car (and better than most RWD cars). It just needs winter tires to do so.

Remember, different kinds of tires are designed for different purposes - not only for snow, but also for ranges of operating temperatures. High performance tires like the RE010 and Azenis RT215 are designed to be used in warm temperatures, and generally suck when it's really cold out, even if the roads are dry. Winter tires are designed to be used in cold temperatures, and will do much, much better in frigid temperatures, even if the roads are dry, as well as doing well on snow and ice.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">High performance tires like the RE010 and Azenis RT215 are designed to be used in warm temperatures, and generally suck when it's really cold out, even if the roads are dry. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Even down to 20 deg I never thought they "sucked" in the dry.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Even down to 20 deg I never thought they "sucked" in the dry.</TD></TR></TABLE>

20 degrees isn't "really cold", you woos. W00s w00s!!!

As noted on the website of the CAA (Canada's equivalent to our AAA):

The strongest argument in favour of winter tires over all-season tires is the composition of the rubber. The rubber of an all-season tire starts to harden at around plus 7ºC; the effect accelerates more quickly once the temperature reaches minus 7ºC. At minus 15ºC, it has lost its elasticity, which leads to a noticeable decrease in traction. On the other hand, winter tires perform normally until the temperature drops to around minus 40ºC. The more aggressive tread design of a winter tire also ensures better traction on different winter surfaces.

+7 degrees C = +45 degrees F
-7 degrees C = +19 degrees F
-15 degrees C = +5 degrees F
-40 degrees C = -40 degrees F

And, of course, high-performance "summer" tires like the RE010 and the Azenis are designed to operate in even warmer temperatures than the all-season tires mentioned here.



Modified by nsxtasy at 5:08 PM 1/13/2005

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C-Rsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">water + azenis = teh suck also </TD></TR></TABLE>

Standing Water + Azenis, is what you have to worry about.

Trust me...

 

I am from Montreal and I have driven my ITR in the winter for the past 3 seasons. I would never even think of driving in sub zero weather without proper winter tires.

Now I know why we still keep a military force.....to dig Toronto out of 1 inch of snow when that happens!!!

I'm sorry but if you live in Canada (and many northern US cities) and you drive your car in the winter....get snow tires!!!!

End of story

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JETydosa &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Didnt we just have this discussion last week?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think we have the discussion on average 1.5 times/month.

I have noticed that Azenis absolute grip does go down in weather below freezing, even if there's no rain or snow with which to contend.

If you have to drive your car all seasons in Ontario, you might want to consider something like the Falken Ziex 512. I have them on my EP3 in 225-40-16, and they do very well even in quite cold weather, up to the point that I'd say they rival the Azenis in average weather conditions...with the added bonus that they channel water well and will work in the snow.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you have to drive your car all seasons in Ontario, you might want to consider something like the Falken Ziex 512. I have them on my EP3 in 225-40-16, and they do very well even in quite cold weather, up to the point that I'd say they rival the Azenis in average weather conditions...with the added bonus that they channel water well and will work in the snow. </TD></TR></TABLE>

EDIT: My Ziex are 502. 512 are a different tire.

Huh! Wow. I woulda said the opposite. Maybe my Ziex are just getting old... they're good in the summer, and my snow tires are way better in cold/freezing temps.

I wouldn't recommend ANY non-all-season (M+S) tire in the winter in colder climates.


Modified by Chris F at 11:51 AM 1/16/2005

 

tony... get some steelies and winters. they're always up for sale on the local boards. with how much snow we get in the tri-city area, you will get pwn3d with the azenis. &gt;_&lt;

i'll keep an eye out for yas

for that money and the savings in ins. though, might be worthwhile to get a beater. it worked out that way for me. lmk if you need anytin'!

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Drove my azenis home in the snow today, they were fine. Just be careful.