Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

question about tdc and stuff...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 07:53 PM
  #1  
civicdust's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 7,440
Likes: 0
From: EASTSIDE OF THE LA RIVER
Default question about tdc and stuff...

Okay, so i bought a motor that had been hydrolocked. i take off the oil pan, and everything is alright. Look at the valves and the head, and everything is ok.

Now, what other things should i be looking for?

also, since my motor in on the floor, should (if i turn it with with 17mm socket) the crank pulley move? because i tried moving it and the bitch is harder than a hung horse on a sunny day.

I dont have the flywheel on if that matters.

TIA
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 07:58 PM
  #2  
stealth civic's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 585
Likes: 0
From: Murray, KY, usa
Default Re: question about tdc and stuff... (JoseDM)

Is the head off of the block? Maybe try turning it backwards, and spray some penetrating oil on the cylinder walls. Since it was locked, it will probablty take alot of force to turn it initially.
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 08:36 PM
  #3  
civicdust's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 7,440
Likes: 0
From: EASTSIDE OF THE LA RIVER
Default Re: question about tdc and stuff... (stealth civic)

no, everything is still intact. Do i take off the sparkplug and sprey some carb cleaner?

Reply
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 08:46 PM
  #4  
stealth civic's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 585
Likes: 0
From: Murray, KY, usa
Default Re: question about tdc and stuff... (JoseDM)

Remove the spark plugs to relieve the compression, then try turning it over, should turn easier.
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 08:50 PM
  #5  
civicdust's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 7,440
Likes: 0
From: EASTSIDE OF THE LA RIVER
Default Re: question about tdc and stuff... (stealth civic)

still hard as a bread
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 08:58 PM
  #6  
HatchEh2's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,555
Likes: 0
From: Windchestertonfieldville, NJ, USA
Default Re: question about tdc and stuff... (JoseDM)

i thought when an engine hydrolocks the internals melt together cuz its like a motor w/ no oil since the oil was neutralized cuz of the water?

So, if im right...y would u want to buy a useless heep of metal?? ....unless you got it for like $20 and u wanna clean it up and have it sit in ur room or something...
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 08:58 PM
  #7  
stealth civic's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 585
Likes: 0
From: Murray, KY, usa
Default Re: question about tdc and stuff... (JoseDM)

Spray some penetrating oil down into the spark plug wells, PB Blaster works really well. Then take a dowel rod (cylinder shaped stick of wood), insert into plug wells to touch the tops of the pistons, then gently tap each one with a mallett to loosen them up. Maybe that will work, couldnt hurt.
Reply
Old Jan 12, 2005 | 03:45 AM
  #8  
HatchEh2's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,555
Likes: 0
From: Windchestertonfieldville, NJ, USA
Default Re: question about tdc and stuff... (stealth civic)

sorry to thread jack but, BUMP for my questions (and for this guy needing help)
Reply
Old Jan 12, 2005 | 07:23 AM
  #9  
stealth civic's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 585
Likes: 0
From: Murray, KY, usa
Default Re: question about tdc and stuff... (HatchEh2)

An engine will hydrolock when too much water gets into the combustion chamber. Since water is not compressable, this can cause the engine to lock in place. Sometimes, with lots of luck and depending on engine speed at the time of lockage, the damage is minimal.
Reply
Old Jan 12, 2005 | 09:50 AM
  #10  
flood's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 635
Likes: 2
From: Greeley, co, USA
Default Re: question about tdc and stuff... (stealth civic)

hydro lock can happen with fuel too.

There was a hotrod in our shop and they guy mounted the fuel tank above the carb. The carb was leaking fuel into the motor and filling the cylinders with gas. If he had tried to start it, it woudl have done the same thing.

Just a FYI kinda thing.
Reply
Old Jan 12, 2005 | 10:18 AM
  #11  
stealth civic's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 585
Likes: 0
From: Murray, KY, usa
Default Re: question about tdc and stuff... (flood)

OK, so an engine with too much of ANY kind of fluid in the combustion chamber will hydrolock. Either way, did you have any luck with your engine?
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
TegraD
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
4
Jan 7, 2009 07:55 PM
Global688
Tech / Misc
4
Nov 27, 2007 05:27 AM
PaChiLa Leader
Acura Integra
7
Apr 25, 2007 09:15 AM
1fastgsrturbo
Forced Induction
12
Apr 16, 2004 07:50 AM
1fastgsrturbo
Tech / Misc
3
Jan 25, 2004 02:40 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 07:46 AM.