Looking for a close up pic of the wheel gap when lowered on Spoon Springs.
How is the ride on these. Are they pretty harsh and bouncy? Anyone know a place to get a good deal on a set? TIA

 

Just a warning to you. The 'Search ****' is gonna get you.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01DC2_R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looking for a close up pic of the wheel gap when lowered on Spoon Springs.
How is the ride on these. Are they pretty harsh and bouncy? Anyone know a place to get a good deal on a set? TIA </TD></TR></TABLE>

If you use the search feature on this site you will learn alot. Discussion has been going on here for a very long time and there is a ton of knowledge. If after searching and reading you do not find what you are after, or if you have more questions, then by all means bring it up...

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=360958

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=352084

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=289803

 

GK had done a write up a long time ago with pics too, but you waited 3 years to sign up to H-T.. and I can no longer find it.

 

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Har Har

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01DC2_R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looking for a close up pic of the wheel gap when lowered on Spoon Springs.
How is the ride on these. Are they pretty harsh and bouncy? Anyone know a place to get a good deal on a set? TIA </TD></TR></TABLE>

These springs will lower your car @2.5" . I dont find the ride to be either harsh, bouncy, or bone-jarring but I would not use these with your stock shocks. If you can wait a month I'll have my set for sale.

 

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I find this more than a little funny and disturbing...

 

Mmmmmm Mmmmmmm. I smell a fresh pot of rice steaming in the cooker.

In all honesty, if your limited in funds and all you can afford is a set of springs, then so be it. However, if you can spend the extra cash, do your car, and your spinal cord right and get yourself a set of coilovers OR a spring/strut set. There are many applications out there, but going the aftermarket spring with the stock strut route, is a big no-no. You'll have the stock struts blown within months. It will all cost the same in the end. Want to deal with being broke now and still be able to enjoy your car? or be broke later and drive around on blown struts?

Aloha,
Brandon

 

Good advice Brandon. This is an ITR for heaven's sake - take your time and really understand the car and what you are going to do with it (and what you expect it to do) before making any changes. The stock ITR'a handling charecteristics can be improved on, but you have to be careful and make sure you do it properly. If that means waiting months or a year to learn and have the money then you will be better off in the long (and short) run for sure.

 

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How is the ride on these. Are they pretty harsh and bouncy? Anyone know a place to get a good deal on a set? TIA </TD></TR></TABLE>

Spoon Progressive Springs are a relatively mild upgrade, and they'll work fine with OEM shocks in good condition, or with a step up upgrade like Bilsteins.

It's a no brainer, really. Nothing wrong with using Spoon Springs and your OEM shocks or a mild upgrade shock, but most of the people in the ITR Forum have owned their cars a long time and have worked their way beyond Spoon Springs.

The ride is fine. It's a decent upgrade if your car's going to be a regular daily driver.

The springs are relatively cheap, so there's no point in shopping around too much. Any of the normal Spoon outlets like IPS Racing or Opak Racing would be able to get them for you quickly and at a good price.

I used them for a while, but I began to track the car rather heavily, so I outgrew them quickly.

 

I wasn't planning on putting these springs on stock shocks. I was just wondering how much the springs drop the car cause I don't want it to be too low. Spoon says it's 20mm which is less than 1 inch which is pretty much exactly what I am looking for. However, in search of pics and other threads, the drop seems to be a lot more. I only plan to use the spings on the street for daily driving and don't want anything too rough. I will get coilovers later when I am ready to track the car more. But for now, I just want something a LITTLE more aggressive than stock and a LITTLE lower. That's why I wanted a close up pic. I'm not a big fan of sleeve type coilovers, so no GC or Skunk2.

 

If you send me your email address, I can drop you a line with a picture of my car when it had Spoon Progressives on it.

 

I have them on my R and to me they ride just like the stock springs. I bought them used from someone off here for $100 with 10k on them and they seem fine one my stock shocks. Here are some pictures of the wheel gap:




Car is a bit dirty but you get the idea.

 

I think one of the best ways to prolong the longevity of your stock dampers is to lengthen the tophats on the suspension.

This will require you to do some cutting/welding (if you have the means to) or take them to somebody who can add another 1.5-2.0in (can't recall the exact number) which will enable the damper to rest higher up...effectively preserving the "natural" travel of the stock damper with a shorter spring.

Ground Control also has a premade set you might want to consider.... (tophats) done properly, you will notice less droop when the car is resting up on jackstands.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01DC2_R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wasn't planning on putting these springs on stock shocks. I was just wondering how much the springs drop the car cause I don't want it to be too low. Spoon says it's 20mm which is less than 1 inch which is pretty much exactly what I am looking for. However, in search of pics and other threads, the drop seems to be a lot more. I only plan to use the spings on the street for daily driving and don't want anything too rough. I will get coilovers later when I am ready to track the car more. But for now, I just want something a LITTLE more aggressive than stock and a LITTLE lower. That's why I wanted a close up pic. I'm not a big fan of sleeve type coilovers, so no GC or Skunk2. </TD></TR></TABLE>

If you are looking for a mild drop then they are not for you. They will lower your car at least 2"

 

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If you are looking for a mild drop then they are not for you. They will lower your car at least 2" </TD></TR></TABLE>

Not even close man. Look at the picture, if it lowered it by atleast 2" then my car would be a lot lower and would scrap more.

 

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Not even close man. Look at the picture, if it lowered it by atleast 2" then my car would be a lot lower and would scrap more.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I need to take current pics of my car. After they settle it will look a lot lower

 

So Spoon basically lied when they said 20mm? Any springs out there that do lower about 1 inch? Thanks again...you guys are of great help.

 

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No they only drop it about an inch. You can only notice it from the wheel gap. Mine have over 10k on them and they sit at about an inch different from stock.

 

I went ahead and uploaded some old pictures since a few people asked for them.

At the time, the installation of these springs became a well celebrated, rather troublesome event. Back then, we didn't understand the vagaries of the different kinds of Koni Yellow and an ITR-specific Koni wasn't available at the time. Koni resellers were automatically shipping the CRX Koni, which has a different spring perch.

This mean that the rear of the car was too low, and my friends in the country fashioned a special plastic "Spoon Spacer" for people wanting to run Koni Yellow with the Spoon Progressive Springs. The spacer raised the back of the car to where the regular spring perch would be.

Still, though, you can tell from looking at the rear Azenis (215-45-16) that I was "bluing" the tyres on the track.







My Spoon Progressive experiment didn't last long, because the setup rapidly reached its limits on the track, and no less authorities than the owner and the North American distributor questioned whether it was the right thing for me.

Trouble was, at the time there wasn't a lot of choice between the Spoon Progressive/stock shock setup and the Spoon N1 coilovers as far as what was generally available in North America, and I found myself gravitating toward custom spring rates and revalved Koni, where I still am today.

In order to get the car to do what I wanted while keeping the Spoon Progressives, I'd have had to put a big swaybar on the back and introduce negative camber on the front, and the guy was even then nervous about threshold braking from high speeds...so I went off them after just one season.

I hasten to add, however, that lots of people drive with these springs and it does seem to be a good solution for the enthusiast/driver who's mostly driving on the street.

 

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It looks like the spoon springs lower the car too much in the rear.....

I have tein s-tech on my itr currently, and the ride height appears to be taller than what the spoon springs have: