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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 12:05 PM
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The conversion from cx to ctr went GREAT! everything bolted on as easy as expected. The only problem I am having is bleeding the brakes. Ive bled them correctly(rr, lr, rf, lf) and have done it a million times. There is no leaks, brand new lines, brand new ebrake cables, new master cylinder, si prop valve and more than enough brake fluid. I've compressed the calipers and nothing but fluid comes out of the lines. So im wondering if anyone has any sort of insight on why the car isnt building up pressure i would greatly appreciate it.

Could i need a ITR master cylinder?

The installation was a breeze, it took about 8 hours, and ive had it on for about a month, but the troubleshooting process with the bleeding is driving me nuts. We've gone through everything in and out and no luck. bump


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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 02:50 PM
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you need 94-01 integra master cyclinder
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 04:33 PM
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bump for a homie who needs help
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 04:58 PM
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if you have the correct MC, you may need to adjust the pushrod behind the booster - did you bench bleed the MC before you installed it? If you didnt, it wont clear itself. Do that, then gravity bleed it for a long while.
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 05:01 PM
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 07:09 AM
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Whenm i installed my 5 lugs

i used my oe master for quite sometime before going to a TYPE R

the OE worked more then fine but if you did install, a new one like mentioned above you may need to bench bleed the master

although it did work better with the type R and remember it aint a tiite car if it aint a type R
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 07:17 AM
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you do not need to replace the master cylinder with this swap.

with that said, did you let your mc run dry while doing the swap? that can kill it. have you checked the brake booster? could be a vacuum leak. unbolt the mc from the bb and look for any fluid where they meet...
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 07:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mike C &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you do not need to replace the master cylinder with this swap.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It'll work, but may cause some other issues in pedal feel.
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 07:21 AM
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How can we "bench bleed the MC" ? Tried searching
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 07:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by STN_Pat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How can we "bench bleed the MC" ? Tried searching </TD></TR></TABLE>

put it on a bench (in a vice, if you have one - w/ blocks of wood so its not damaged) hook up lines from the brake hardlnes and loop them to the m/c reservoir. Fill MC. Cycle the MC about 486 times until no more air is coming out of the lines. Install MC, flush braking system. Usually when you get a new MC it comes with a kit of fittings and lines, but I keep one around just in case it doesnt.
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 07:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It'll work, but may cause some other issues in pedal feel.</TD></TR></TABLE>

a longer pedal stroke, but also allows you to modulate better.
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 08:08 PM
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thx guys the more the merrier. Anyone ever had this problem? It's such a pain in the ***. It looks so beautiful, but sucks that no one else gets to see it. Thx for all the comments, keep em' coming, i appreciate it.


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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 02:22 AM
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 05:14 AM
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When I did my 5 lug conversion... I used:

1. JDM Hype-r Booster
2. JDM Hype-r Master Cylinder
3. 30/40 PV (should have gotten 40/40)
4. Stainless steel brake lines

With that said you DON'T HAVE TO DO THE SAME!

I just did that because I basically got the entire front clip so why not?

But might braking is a dream and feels uber great!
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 06:10 AM
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thx. bump
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 06:12 AM
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why are u bumping? All the info u need is already posted.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 07:02 AM
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the more the better. ive tried all these, and still no luck. so im just looking for something different. thx for the concern though.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 07:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RedEK9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ive tried all these</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you have the correct sized M/C, brand new, bench bled, no leaks in the system and properly adjusted pedal then you're doing something wrong here.

Edit: what kind of pads are you using
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 07:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> what kind of pads are you using</TD></TR></TABLE>


The OE CTR brake pads. Im thinking there is air somewhere. The best thing might be just to take it to a brake shop. Midas? or
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 07:58 AM
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Old Jan 24, 2005 | 02:16 PM
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FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's finished guys!!! Didn't really know that calipers could bolt on to both sides, and still look ok. The final diagnosis, once i got i back from the shop was: the drivers side caliper was on the passenger side and vice versa. Once that was changed, it built up pressure immediately, and i was set. Now im five lug blingin' baby, yeah!!! Thx for all your guys's help and input, i appreciate it.


Will be taking a photoshoot soooooon. Sweet! bump


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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 05:28 PM
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