Whats the stock rear sway bar size?(5th gen)
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Whats the stock rear sway bar size?(5th gen)
im looking to get a rear sway bar and ive been looking at Neuspeeds,Suspension Tech, and Tanabes bars trying to decide which one is the best for AutoX/Daily Driving, but does anyone know the stock diameter of the Rear bar to compare?
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Re: Whats the stock rear sway bar size?(5th gen) (N2oH22)
Should be 22.5mm. If no one else can confirm it, I'll dig up my stock rear sway in the garage and confirm it. Size is labeled on the bushing/mount.
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Re: (hOndafienD 04)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hOndafienD 04 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what would happen if you drove w/o any sway bars? lol....just wondering!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Fisrt off, we're talking about anti-roll bars, not "sway" bars.
As to your question: It depends on which roll bar you'd remove.
But before we get there, lets get a better, working picture of what roll bars do and are:
A roll bar is a bar of metal that connects two wheels on the same axle to the chassis. It's job is to control the rate of lateral transfer between the two wheels. Lateral transfer of load between occurs under cornering and can has an effect on camber changes and the tire's contact patch. Because roll bars can limit or reduce the body roll and have an effect on the rate of the lateral load changes, they're considered to be an integral part of the overall or total roll resistance of the car's suspension.
How it works: as you corner, the outside wheels compress and at the same instant the inside wheels unload, this simultaneous action is body roll. The roll bar limits body roll and lateral load changes becuase of the fact that it's connected to both wheels and the chassis, therefore the only way for this to change would be if the bar twisted - the bar's resistance to twist, therefore defines the increase in roll resistance.
So ... if you remove the front bar you reduce the roll resistance of the front suspension and in effect soften the suspension. If you remove the rear roll bar, the same would happen. If you removed the front and kept the rear, the car would be more prone to oversteer and if your removed the rear and kept the front the car would be more prone to understeer.
Fisrt off, we're talking about anti-roll bars, not "sway" bars.
As to your question: It depends on which roll bar you'd remove.
But before we get there, lets get a better, working picture of what roll bars do and are:
A roll bar is a bar of metal that connects two wheels on the same axle to the chassis. It's job is to control the rate of lateral transfer between the two wheels. Lateral transfer of load between occurs under cornering and can has an effect on camber changes and the tire's contact patch. Because roll bars can limit or reduce the body roll and have an effect on the rate of the lateral load changes, they're considered to be an integral part of the overall or total roll resistance of the car's suspension.
How it works: as you corner, the outside wheels compress and at the same instant the inside wheels unload, this simultaneous action is body roll. The roll bar limits body roll and lateral load changes becuase of the fact that it's connected to both wheels and the chassis, therefore the only way for this to change would be if the bar twisted - the bar's resistance to twist, therefore defines the increase in roll resistance.
So ... if you remove the front bar you reduce the roll resistance of the front suspension and in effect soften the suspension. If you remove the rear roll bar, the same would happen. If you removed the front and kept the rear, the car would be more prone to oversteer and if your removed the rear and kept the front the car would be more prone to understeer.
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Hey Phil, for the money just go with the Neuspeed. But the ST's aren't bad either and they're good if you're on a budget, you can find great deals in the vendors classified area. Another one is the Progress adj but unless you're going to be a hardcore autox'er, you don't really need the adjustability.
Neuspeed and ST's I believe comes with everything you need to install and the Progress you really need to purchase the endlinks to go with it.
Neuspeed and ST's I believe comes with everything you need to install and the Progress you really need to purchase the endlinks to go with it.
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Re: Whats the stock rear sway bar size?(5th gen) (Blackhorse6)
eh, I was pretty close 
0.5 mm is nothin
The heavy duty brackets that come with the Neuspeed make it worth the extra $$. Back in Sept, I found the lowest price on the Neuspeed rear at robear racing but got shox.com to match it and placed my order there (along with a bunch of other suspension stuff).
Progress is 27mm and adjustable - nice if you plan on doing autox or road race on a regular basis. Downside is its prone to rip out stock endlinks and the Progress endlinks with spherical bearings are expensive and need to be replaced regularly.
If you get your endlinks cutom made you might be able to get a longer-life heavy duty link
0.5 mm is nothin
The heavy duty brackets that come with the Neuspeed make it worth the extra $$. Back in Sept, I found the lowest price on the Neuspeed rear at robear racing but got shox.com to match it and placed my order there (along with a bunch of other suspension stuff).
Progress is 27mm and adjustable - nice if you plan on doing autox or road race on a regular basis. Downside is its prone to rip out stock endlinks and the Progress endlinks with spherical bearings are expensive and need to be replaced regularly.
If you get your endlinks cutom made you might be able to get a longer-life heavy duty link
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