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any use of camber kit if wheels not butterflying???

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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 08:30 AM
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is there any use for a camber kit if your wheels are not butterflying???
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 08:34 AM
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to prevent it
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 08:38 AM
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is that all it is used for??? nothing else??
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 08:50 AM
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it is use to corr. neg or pos. camber, I would first take your **** to an alinment shop, and get an alinement and see if there's any neg or pos. camber, if there is you need to buy a camber kit, (due to the fact that honda's don't have camber adjustment, they only have caster. ) also if you don't see it the camber may still be neg. caz in most case's like mine you can't see the neg camber with the humen eye, but I notice that **** when my tire wear's lol ) so good luck
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 08:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civtegra_hybrid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> also if you don't see it the camber may still be neg. caz in most case's like mine you can't see the neg camber with the humen eye, but I notice that **** when my tire wear's lol ) so good luck </TD></TR></TABLE>

You don't need a camber kit; just an alignment. Toe wears tire, not camber. I'm running -1.5F and -2.0R witout any wear at all. Look here:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1104956

And to the OP, do you do any research at all before asking questions? You have 6 or 7 threads on the first page alone, and you're constantly bumping them.


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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 09:17 AM
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camber kits a waste a money
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 09:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AZNBIGPIMPN505 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">camber kits a waste a money</TD></TR></TABLE>

... not if you want adjustable camber for the track or if you're just really slammed and camber DOES start to affect tire wear.
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 09:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AZNBIGPIMPN505 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">camber kits a waste a money</TD></TR></TABLE>

For you, most likely. Get an alignment.

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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 09:21 AM
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i have mine slammed on some 18" maybe a inch an a half... what you think???
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 09:24 AM
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some reason, i have toe in spec, and camber -1.5 avg in front and -1.5 in rear..
and my yoko es 100's wear out
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 09:32 AM
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is it worth the money???
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 09:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AZNBIGPIMPN505 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have mine slammed on some 18" maybe a inch an a half... what you think???</TD></TR></TABLE>

So you droped 1.5"? That's not alot; what springs are you running? How long have you been like this? Are you getting any uneven wear? HAVE YOU GOTTEN AN ALIGNMENT?

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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 09:36 AM
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some cheap coilovers about 3 months no alignment yet... why wats up
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 09:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AZNBIGPIMPN505 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">some cheap coilovers about 3 months no alignment yet... why wats up</TD></TR></TABLE>

WTF, does everyone have to hold your hand? I gave you all the information you need, read all of the posts and the link that I posted. If you've only dropped 1.5", get a damn alingment, and you'll be fine.

Can this be locked?

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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 09:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by igo4bmx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">some reason, i have toe in spec, and camber -1.5 avg in front and -1.5 in rear..
and my yoko es 100's wear out </TD></TR></TABLE>

my toe is in spec too, but i'm running ~2 degrees camber front/rear. my tire wear is pretty uneven, with the insides wearing more, especially in the front. i think a lot of it has to do with driving style. i take lots of high speed turns on sharp coners and i think it really takes its toll on my tires. good thing i know a place that mounts and balances tires for $12/each. i just get my tires flipped around so they wear evenly.
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 09:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dantastic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

my toe is in spec too, </TD></TR></TABLE>

There's a difference between 'in spec' and correct. For the street toe should be set to 0. You can get away with 1/4" each side for better turn in if you track. Even if it's in spec, if both tires are set different, you can get uneven wear.

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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 09:44 AM
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thx man
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 09:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EX_AutoXer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

There's a difference between 'in spec' and correct. For the street toe should be set to 0. You can get away with 1/4" each side for better turn in if you track. Even if it's in spec, if both tires are set different, you can get uneven wear.

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well it's zeroed out, and i havent changed my ride height. my car also tracks straight and true on level roads (follows the crown of the road just a bit). my accord was the exact same way (perfect toe, pretty nasty negative camber, inner tire wear). maybe i should play around with tire pressures a bit?
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 10:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dantastic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> but i'm running ~2 degrees camber front/rear. my tire wear is pretty uneven, with the insides wearing more, especially in the front..</TD></TR></TABLE>

Duh, the negative camber is wearing your tires. The harder you drive the faster they will wear out.

Actually, the more negative you go, your tires will be more flat as far as tire contact goes when you do corner. Your tires are wearing out by driving straight.
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