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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 06:27 PM
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I own a '96 Accord EX. Everytime I go past 60 mph on the highway, my abs light comes on. Anyone else every have this problem? I checked the code and it says "Front Left Pulsar". I've replaced the Front Left Wheel Sensor and the Axle and still that light comes on, only after 60 mph.

Anyone else experience this before?

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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 05:39 PM
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Default Re: ABS Light coming on after going 60mph (Neldawg)

i have an idea...lets say you ditch abs because it sucks anyways and just get brake lines for you accord WITHOUT abs...problem solved
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 07:53 PM
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Default Re: ABS Light coming on after going 60mph (Neldawg)

I have a 97 Accord LX and it's almost the same issue. I have had it diagnosis and they say that the air bag controller is bad. If you thinking of having it tested most Honda dealers charge around $70.00 but the worst is yet to come the unit is almost $600.00 not including labor. I hear pep boys has a sensor reset device for around $80.00 but it may come on again and need to be reset.
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 05:34 PM
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Default Re: ABS Light coming on after going 60mph (integraracer92)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integraracer92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have an idea...lets say you ditch abs because it sucks anyways and just get brake lines for you accord WITHOUT abs...problem solved</TD></TR></TABLE>

that's not fixing the problem, i am sure some honda track going guys swear by taking out abs at the track but when it's pouring rain outside, the only thing that keep the car stopping straight(aka not locking up and slide left or right) is your lovely abs system.

bring the car and have it checked out, is there any other signs?

well, clean the teeth of the abs "wheel" just for the starter, could be dirts,e tc

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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 06:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Neldawg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've replaced the Front Left Wheel Sensor and the Axle and still that light comes on, only after 60 mph.

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Have you checked the air gap between the sensor and ring? A tire with a different circumference could be a cause too.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 04:34 AM
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How is the 'pulser' different from the wheel sensor? (I don't have the Helm book with me right now.)
code 3-2 = LF pulser
code 4-4 = LF wheel sensor

Different-diameter tires has it's own code, 3-12, so why should that set 3-2?
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 09:27 AM
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Did you clean all the grease off the sensor as well? When I took my axle out I had a ton of grease on the sensor itself. I'm not sure if that will affect it, but it can't help it.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 04:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JimBlake &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How is the 'pulser' different from the wheel sensor?
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Good catch Jim!!! I may have caught it if he had posted the code. The pulser is the toothed ring that the sensor reads off of, thought alot of people call the sensor that. What can you do?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JimBlake &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Different-diameter tires has it's own code, 3-12, so why should that set 3-2?
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Was just a thought, a poke in the dark.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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Well...I didn't include the number but I did mention that the code stated Left Front Pulsar. And JimBlake is right...the code is 3-2.

That toothed ring is around the CV Joint I believe. But I changed the entire Left Axle and I also changed the Wheel Sensor and Yes the original sensor was real greasy. I also rotated my tires and they are factory spec on stock rims.

Taking out the ABS is not an option for me, I actually like having the ABS

But still the light comes on only after going 60MPH.....

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chiovnidca &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Good catch Jim!!! I may have caught it if he had posted the code. The pulser is the toothed ring that the sensor reads off of, thought alot of people call the sensor that. What can you do?


Was just a thought, a poke in the dark. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 05:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Neldawg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
That toothed ring is around the CV Joint I believe. But I changed the entire Left Axle and I also changed the Wheel Sensor and Yes the original sensor was real greasy.

But still the light comes on only after going 60MPH.....

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Did the new axle come with a pulser ring? Is it properly aligned? Is the air gap within spec? A small dent, ding or chip on a tooth can cause problems too.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Neldawg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> And JimBlake is right...the code is 3-2.

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JimBlake is almost always right. He's one of the most inteligent members of honda-tech and he has an eye for the details. (i wonder if that will get me quoted in somebodys sig)
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 03:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chiovnidca &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The pulser is the toothed ring that the sensor reads off of...</TD></TR></TABLE>Yeah, look for chips or broken teeth? Maybe the ABS software sees erratic pulses it'll blame the pulser, but if it doesn't see anything it blames the sensor? Check the air gap between the teeth & the sensor. If it's wrong maybe it skips reading some teeth?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chiovnidca &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">JimBlake is almost always right.</TD></TR></TABLE>Whaddya mean ALMOST??
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 08:11 PM
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Default Re: ABS Light coming on after going 60mph (JimBlake)

Yea i checked the teeth before puttin on the new axle.... dun kno about the air gap between the teeth and sensor. I will check it out as soon as it gets a lil warmer ova here

Thanks for the tips

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JimBlake &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, look for chips or broken teeth? Maybe the ABS software sees erratic pulses it'll blame the pulser, but if it doesn't see anything it blames the sensor? Check the air gap between the teeth & the sensor. If it's wrong maybe it skips reading some teeth?

Whaddya mean ALMOST??
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 11:03 PM
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how do you read abs light codes?
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 04:01 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4drcord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how do you read abs light codes?</TD></TR></TABLE>You jumper the SCS connector, just like when you read check-engine codes. The ABS light will flash it's code. If there's errors stored in both the ECU & the ABS, I guess both lights will be flashing out their own codes.

But remember, there's a different set of codes for the 2 completely different ABS systems. Up to '97 with a fluid reservoir has one set of codes. '98 & later (without a reservoir) has a different set of codes.
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