Just want some thoughts on omni power full coilover's for drag use? any experiences would be great

 

it'll work, but so will any other damper. it all depends on how serious you are i guess. if you're just looking for a way to use a high rate spring the omni is probably a good choice for your buck. if you're looking to be ubercompetitive i'd think the low speed damping of the omnipower would be insufficient. i don't pretend to know anything about drag setups, but i'd think spring rates are more important than the damping ability of a shock.

 

^^^^ as stated it can also be so stiff that now your tire becomes the shock absorber ( I suck at spelling I know it ) so the back tires in a sense bounce then the car..............that would be cool to see.

great thread by the way

 

Mike C do u have any reccomendations?

 

if your talking full drag. i am not sure if anyone else makes a stiffer setup..

omnipower has the 18k - 1001 ft/lb setup

 

why is the drag setup only rear? what do you run up front? stock?

 

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OMNI does offer a front, basically you have a chioce of spring rates 8k/10k/12k
RoBear Racing and Kteller offer these packagesto HT members!

 

You can also switch the front and back shocks which works well for drag racing and autocrossing...You can unscrew the bottom collars off all 4 shocks..Then you put the front collars on the rear shock/spring combo and put the rear collars on the front shock/spring combo. This will definitely reduce wheel hop and will help your 60 ft. times. The higher spring rates and increased valving in the rear will also help the car rotate a little better.

 

Does anyone know if the valving they use on the shocks for the front(10k or 12k) is different then the valving they use on the shocks for the rear(18k)???

Three things I liked about the Omni's for drag racing.
1. Good spring rates
2. Price
3. The ability to set ride hieght w/ out compressing the shock.

With standard style shock/springs when you lower the car the shock has potential energy to rebound. (because the shock is being compressed) With the omni's, this isn't happening. The car can be lowered and the shock will only be compressed as much as the weight of the car and spring rate allow it. The advantage of this is so that when the front end lift's under acceleration the shock will "top out" and act as a limiter. I've heard this could be a bad thing in the long run and most shock guys will tell you that this isn't good but the way I look at it if it keeps the weight on the front then it can't be that bad for drag racing!

One thing I don't like is the lack of information on the actual shock itself and in-ability to adjust the shock's rebound/dampening. I really have no clue on the compression/rebound characteristics of this set up, which kinda bothers me, but then again, if you look at the big picture the rear isn't even really doing much w/ a 1000lb spring and if the front is topping out then how important is it? ok, just thinking outloud maybe someone would like to comment.

 

B20vtec how does swappin collar's benefit drag and autocrossing?

 

Lets say you own an Omni-Power Sport Kit for instance...They come w/ 12K springs in the front and 10K springs in the rear...When you switch collars around you are now putting the 12K spring in the rear and the 10K in the front...For drag racing this helps because it will not allow the weight of the car to shift backwards as easily...Ultimately that is why you go to a drag kit so that it keeps your tires planted firmly to the ground, resulting in better traction...

As for Autocrossing...The harder spring and increased valving in the rear will help the back end rotate easier...Resulting in faster corner speeds.

 

Yes the valving is definitely different on the Drag Coilovers vs. the 12K coilovers...In fact all spring rates used on Omni-Power Coilovers are matched to the valving...The 6K, 8K, 10K, 12K & 18K Coilovers all have different valving...

 

So on a street car running 400whp on the street and say 600+ at the track and the car is still being driven on the street is the Omni Drag set up going to be real harsh on the street or you should be able to get used to it. And the car sees mainly highway street miles not alot of cruising? I know you need the stiff spring rate to get that traction but i dont want to hate to drive my car or have to switch rear shocks when i go to the track. The car is a 99 civic coupe with blown susp. right now

 

Daily driving on 1000 lb springs will not be comfortable! I think that's way too much for the street. Either swap them whenever you go to the track or hate driving your car with such stiff springs. No girls will ride with you, that's for sure. They already complain in mine and I only have the Street setup.

 

IMO, about 400lb(in the rear) and under is comfortable on the street. I guess this would be the 8k set up? i dont feel like doing the math. 1000lb's is what I got for the rear and it's gonna suck for the street but luckily it's not my daily driver, and not built to be raced on the street, just street drivable.

 

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this is why they orginally only come in set of 2 for the rear.. so ppl dont tend to assume they can drive on the streets on 1001lb setups lol

We've been selling different packages for a while now. you can order two rear 18kg drag rears.. add in 2 coilovers for your front (6-8-10-12) or buy all 6 (street/sport) + Rear Drags..

and as the b20vtec guy said, each damper is valved for its specific spring..

 

So being that the car will still be driven on the street you should just bite the bullet and buy the street or sport omni's and then buy the 2 drag ones just for the races and events. I understand where you are coming from but isnt that a pain in the *** to keep having to swap the rears out? And the ride will be that bad that you dont think you would be able to get used to the ride? I am planning on competing in NDRA and a few other events i just want to be prepared and kind of have the best of both worlds

 

regarding suspesion setups, it's not really possible to have the best of both worlds. You have to sacrifice somewhere. 1000lb springs on the street is pretty damn stiff and i doubt it'll be tolerable. Paul

 

The Omni-Power Drag Rear Suspension is going to ride extremely firm...No doubt about it!

What I would actually recommend is going w/ a Sport set up and put the fronts in the rear and the rears in the front...The 12K rears actually do pretty well at the track...Not quite as well as the 18K Drag set up but the Sport kit can definitely be driven on the street...It will be firm but not out of control firm :-)

There are quite a few street/drag people using the Sport kit for drag racing

 

Most likely you may experience problems w. Omni suspension if you are running large slicks...You should give Omni-Power a call as they may have something that may work for your application...They can be reached at 951-956-6554

 

John, I've seen 26's run on the omni's before. It'll fit, I put Art's on tonight w/ the 25's. Also, if you got the 12k front you really shouldn't get much squat on braking to allow it to rub. then again you can't go wrong w/ the koni/GC set up.

 

i drove a gutted crx around for awhile with the drag setup and didnt mind all that much. It was like driving a go cart. U can feel the bumps but i got over it.