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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 09:12 PM
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i got a little ambition after work today and took the motor and tranny out of my civic. it went pretty smoothly, considering its the first time i have done it on that car. i also pulled the head off since im gunna use it for my mini me swap. the reason i pulled it was because i spun a bearing sunday . anyways, i picked up a d16a6 and a tranny from someone on the site and im not sure what tranny it is. it has been painted and i didnt see any stamping on it. is there any way to tell? my ex tranny has bad syncros and i need to replace it but i dont wanna use one with some lame gear ratios. maybe i can make a hybrid tranny out of the 2? anyways, here's some pics. yea, i know its dirty, if you dont like it, come clean it.

the d16a6 im gunna use for the minime. i just pulled the head off, it needs to be cleaned up a bit obviously.
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 09:16 PM
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nice im a have to do the same when it gest warm...
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 09:17 PM
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props for motivation. You go out the bottom?
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 09:18 PM
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yup, nice and easy!
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 09:45 PM
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i wish i had ur patience..
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 07:44 PM
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here's an update if anyone cares. i rebuilt the tranny (had a bad shift fork), rebuilt the d16a6, tossed the motor and tranny in the car, and slapped on the d16z6 head. so far so good except i cant get the timing belt on. any ideas? im using a z6 belt and an a6 tensioner and water pump. here's some pics.






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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 07:49 PM
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I hope you used some assembly lube on that motor. Also why did you take it apart anyways???

What's the problem with the timing belt too short too long?
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 07:54 PM
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yea i used lube. i took it apart because i spun a bearing on my d16z6 and i wasnt about to toss in a motor without freshening it up a bit. i went with the a6 block because i got it REALLY cheap and i wanted a little more compression. the timing belt is too short
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 08:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IsBlueSmokeBad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> the timing belt is too short</TD></TR></TABLE>

The A6 tensioner pulley's diameter is too large. You will need to step up one toot on the belt I believe. I've done it before, but I forget what belt I used. Have you tried the A6 belt?
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 08:04 PM
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you could try a DX timing belt it's a tad bit longer.
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 08:06 PM
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thanks jim. i couldnt get my z6 tensioner on the a6 block because of the different bracket that the spring clips to. im not sure if the bearing part comes off that bracket, i can check. otherwise ill try a longer belt.
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 08:07 PM
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thanks, that is a 1.5, correct?
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 08:09 PM
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well I know that DX is 2 teeth longer then z6, and vx is one tooth less then z6.
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ABK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well I know that DX is 2 teeth longer then z6, and vx is one tooth less then z6.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you know that for sure, I think we have a winner. If I remember correctly:

VX- 103 teeth
Z6- 104 teeth
A6- 107 teeth
DX- 106 teeth

Please correct any inaccuracy.
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 08:42 PM
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DAMM that motor looks fresh, what did you do or use to have it so clean?
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 08:48 PM
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thanks man! i spent many many hours stripping every last part off and soaking every part in degreaser and scrubbing the **** out of them. when i was done, i put everything in this machine we have at work that shoots steaming hot water and soap out of jets and rotates. that pretty much got all the loose crap and degreaser off.
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 07:15 PM
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well i got her running and driving today. i ended up using a 106 tooth timing belt from a 94 civic dx like jim suggested. thanks alot for the advice, it worked perfect. car runs great, i did a little test run around town and everything seems fine. the idle was a little fucked up when i first started it but it has always done that. i need a new iacv and yes its been cleaned a million times.
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 07:21 PM
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nice to know it worked for you !
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 07:28 PM
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yea thanks again man. i ended up rebuilding the bottom end like you suggested and it worked out fine.
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 07:29 PM
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for a hardworking member! give the lazy group someones lead to follow
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 07:45 PM
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are you using the a6 trans? isnt this eg+ forum? if its going into a eg then that trans wont work. not being a smart *** just tying to help
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 07:48 PM
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I think he rebuilt a z6 tranny and put it in.
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 08:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ABK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think he rebuilt a z6 tranny and put it in.</TD></TR></TABLE> yup my car came with the z6 so i just rebuilt the tranny that came with it,
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 08:25 PM
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Cool stuff man...nice work

That is one clean *** motor
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 09:26 PM
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you did all that with a flathead screwdriver and scissors?? that's amazing!!

Good job! keep us updated!
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