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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 07:31 PM
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I'm not sure why I'm thinking of it either, but hey, just wondering if there's anything to be done to the VX motor? The easiest way to find power is obviously to go b-series, but the more I read and research on the d-series, the more I'm tempted to go that route. Most of the info out there for the d-series motor is for everything but VX's, so just wondering what's a good source of info for modding this motor?
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 07:34 PM
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first thing is swap in an EX/Si tranny. The VX gearing is hideous.

Second, open up the air stream. Throw an D16Z6 intake mani and throttle body, plus a nice header and exhaust, and the top end will pull just as nice as a D16Z6.

I ran a VX with this setup for about 2 months and loved it. Great mileage plus the top end pulled alright. Held right with my buddies DX with a Z6 swap
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 07:36 PM
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You don't mod a VX motor.

You don't haft to go b-series either.

I'm currently a D16Z6 with i/h/e 6.5lb flywheel and act hdss clutch kit and i beat most 99-00 si's.

Do some searching on forced induction and review some products.

You've got alot to learn.
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 07:45 PM
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Thought about going FI, but the internals of the vx motor are way too weak to hold up to boost from what i've been reading. Plus I'm more for staying NA. Swapping heads to the y8 or z6 on the vx block apparently yields too low a compression. Is this correct? If so, I'm basically left to bolt ons. In that case, is there a d-series cam that would fit the vx head, or any other company out there that would make a cam for this motor.

Yes I have a lot to learn about, that's why i'm asking quesitons here.
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 07:49 PM
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You could mod the suspension and have a friggin blast.
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 07:57 PM
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if i were u, i would look for some d16a6 pistons and get a y8 headgasket...............possible to get up to 12.5:1 compression if ur lookin to go that route with ur car....................as far as cams, look into Crower and get the springs and retainers to go along with a cam as well. whats the purpose of this car?? street/strip use or just a usual daily driver with some kik in it????
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 07:58 PM
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someone on here has a boosted vx. i forgot what his s/n was.

edit: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1094480
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Superdragr45 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if i were u, i would look for some d16a6 pistons and get a y8 headgasket...............possible to get up to 12.5:1 compression if ur lookin to go that route with ur car....................as far as cams, look into Crower and get the springs and retainers to go along with a cam as well. whats the purpose of this car?? street/strip use or just a usual daily driver with some kik in it????</TD></TR></TABLE>

do you have ANY idea what the combustion chamber and pistons look like in a D15Z1???? With A6 pistons I'm sure the comp would be WAY too high, seeing how the stock pistons are dished like a soup bowl
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 08:19 PM
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vx motor is ****, sorry but it is. Weak rods head flows like ****, slap a z6 or y8 head on it you will loose too much compression. Plan on turboing it after the head swap? Bad idea weak rods.
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 08:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ABK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">vx motor is ****, sorry but it is. Weak rods head flows like ****, slap a z6 or y8 head on it you will loose too much compression. Plan on turboing it after the head swap? Bad idea weak rods.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, but it takes VERY little to make it 10 times more fun.
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 08:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Evs-One &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

yeah, but it takes VERY little to make it 10 times more fun. </TD></TR></TABLE>

if you wonna make it fun get a suspension, that way it will be fun but missing power will keep you from killing somebody.

there is no real way to get power out of vx safely. Unless you somehow rebuild it.
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 08:50 PM
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some people here think making a 329487324whp car is the only way it can be fun but fail to realize some people just have fun driving ;D especially with a 1.5!
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 08:54 PM
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If you're gonna go with a 1.5 get a jdm d15b. The vx motor is completely engineered for fuel efficiency and emmisions. It was basically honda's answer to greenpeace.

Now, people like the mod the VX model hatch because it is the lightest of the light. If you keep your stock engine, do a suspension overhaul so you can have fun with turns, but I recommend swapping that thing out for atleast a jdm d15b or a d16z6. If you go that route you can boost later on down the road for relatively cheap aswell.
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 08:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ABK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

if you wonna make it fun get a suspension, that way it will be fun but missing power will keep you from killing somebody.

there is no real way to get power out of vx safely. Unless you somehow rebuild it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

that goes for any Honda. yes, you can only go so fast through the corners, but you can never pull out with the VX/CX tranny. Give me a VX engine, my current susension, and 250 bucks and I'll be smiles all day long!
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 09:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Evs-One &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

that goes for any Honda. yes, you can only go so fast through the corners, but you can never pull out with the VX/CX tranny. Give me a VX engine, my current susension, and 250 bucks and I'll be smiles all day long!</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 09:49 PM
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Keep the vx. turbo it and blow the motor then have a good reason to buy another. problem fixed J/p... A buddy of mine ran 13.2xx with a turbo vx motor. pretty good for stock vx/z6 mini me..Lasted a few months..haha..they have retarded power if you know how to build it. keep me updated.
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 09:50 PM
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Almost forgot, you need a z6 tranny..
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 10:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek_b16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Keep the vx. turbo it and blow the motor then have a good reason to buy another. problem fixed J/p... A buddy of mine ran 13.2xx with a turbo vx motor. pretty good for stock vx/z6 mini me..Lasted a few months..haha..they have retarded power if you know how to build it. keep me updated. </TD></TR></TABLE>

a Z6 head on a VX bottom end is probably low 8:1, maybe even 7.x:1 CR.....he had to have been running high boost to make any power. The VX cc is way to small to swap out for a larger Z6 cc
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 10:22 PM
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get a vx beause the most obvious reason its already wired for vtec cant beat that. its cheap because of the economy motor. i had a 92 and i put in a complete 2000 obd2 gsr swap . it plugged completely in. i didnt have to wire 1 thing. only thing i did was change out the stock ecu and put in a chipped p28 and even that plugged right in. low 14s stock instantly
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 10:28 PM
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[QUOTE=Evs-One]

a Z6 head on a VX bottom end is probably low 8:1, maybe even 7.x:1 CR.....he had to have been running high boost to make any power. The VX cc is way to small to swap out for a larger Z6 cc[/QUOTE

Custom made 18g turbo with 13lb boost..
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 09:19 AM
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This car is really my daily driver, and i'm more into getting a bit more power out of her but nothing drastic. Main reason, reliability, second reason, I can't afford to be without this car for more than one day due to it being my only commute to work. Therefore, no time for a transplant, and probably not going the turbo route.

I've always been more keen on the twisties than the straights anyways, so suspension mods are already on their way. It's on H&R race springs already, so i'll couple them up with some koni's. Got the front strut brace, now time for the rear upper/lower, control arms, and maybe sways. With a car this light, it really doesn't take a lot for me to have fun in it. Oh, and plus some nice rubber to boot!

As most have mentioned here, it really doesn't take a lot to have fun with an EG. So here is what i've gathered so far. Transmission is first thing to come out as the VX tranny obviously has some shitty gearing in there for fuel economy purposes.

Second, D16Z6 intake maniold and throttle body. Is there any other throttle body that will fit on this intake manifold? Or what other manifold would others suggest I look into?

Third, headers. Only issue I think I may run into is where the o2 fitting goes into. From what I understand, correct me if i'm wrong, the o2 for all SOHC civics excluding vx goes after the cat or nearer the car, but with the vx it is located nearer the block. If so is this just a rewiring issue to relocate the o2 to work on the aftermarket headers on a vx? Then there's the exhaust, well, there's plenty to choose from here.

So overall, nothing major, just more suspension work and a bit more pep out of the vx motor. Just really researching up on what fits and what doesn't. And in the end, I'll probably just run a V-AFC for a little bit of tuning to get the most out of everything.
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 09:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Evs-One &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do you have ANY idea what the combustion chamber and pistons look like in a D15Z1???? With A6 pistons I'm sure the comp would be WAY too high, seeing how the stock pistons are dished like a soup bowl </TD></TR></TABLE>

im under the assumption of a head swap to a z6/y8 head...................heard of this setup workin for a few people..................if anything, this guy needs to talk to Spade on how to build a d-series.
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 09:31 AM
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spray thar motor and have some fun while your saving up for a SOHC or DOHC
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 09:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicrida3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">get a vx beause the most obvious reason its already wired for vtec cant beat that. its cheap because of the economy motor. i had a 92 and i put in a complete 2000 obd2 gsr swap . it plugged completely in. i didnt have to wire 1 thing. only thing i did was change out the stock ecu and put in a chipped p28 and even that plugged right in. low 14s stock instantly </TD></TR></TABLE>

92 is obd1 where as you put an obd2 swap in. It obviously was not plug and play.... for misinformation.
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 10:00 AM
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'Built B16A' on HT has a turbocharged D15Z1 [VX]. I've got a VX with a turbocharged B18A1. I chose it because it's lightweight and already had all the wiring for VTEC if I ever decide to go that route. Not to mention the great gas mileage I got before I swapped!
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