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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 09:26 PM
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I know the stock headlamps for EG's are 9003's but would H4's work also? They look the same, but dunno if they'll work in place of the stock lamps.

Also, i'm having problems installing my stock lamps. There's screws that hold down a metal clip or something? WTF is that for? I've never encountered these 9003's before and replacing one for the first times a pain in the butt considering it should just be a 1-2-3 thing.

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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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9003 and H4 are the same thing.
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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 09:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fastwanabe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">9003 and H4 are the same thing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Are you sure? Cuz some people are saying the H4's are HID only and the 9003's are stock reg. headlamps.
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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 10:06 PM
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same
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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 10:18 PM
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now if they're the same...which one puts out more HID-like lighting? Meaning better results?
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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 10:21 PM
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the H4's are higher wattage... so, therefor, will be brighter
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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 10:36 PM
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is it safe to run H4s?
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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 11:13 PM
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I've heard some people say they melted their wires with swapping in the H4's, and others have said its fine, so I'm not too sure
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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 11:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fastwanabe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">9003 and H4 are the same thing.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 09:22 AM
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well whose actually using H4's in place of their stock 9003's? Lemme know please with problems or without.

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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 10:29 AM
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They are the exact same bulbs. They are the exact same wattage. Exact same size. Different manufactures just have different part numbers for them. The only way you will melt yor harness is if use higher than stock wattage. Pull the stock bulb out of your car. It will have H4 stamped on it.
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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 10:37 AM
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^^^^exactly like he said. I work for a Honda dealer in Canada and over the past year, we have carried H4 and 9003 bulbs. The only difference is the part number that the manufacturer uses. NO DIFFERENCE at all!
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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 10:52 AM
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k guys..thanks for the replys and clerification
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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 11:25 AM
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omg... no, go look on a pack of H4's and 9003's the H4's are of higher wattage... like 90/100 or something, and the 9003's are only like 45/55
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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 11:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by r0yal &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">omg... no, go look on a pack of H4's and 9003's the H4's are of higher wattage... like 90/100 or something, and the 9003's are only like 45/55 </TD></TR></TABLE>

Stay out of the APC isle and go to the stock bulb isle.

H4, 9003, and CB/2 are all the same thing. They are all available in different wattages. A stock h4, 9003, or cb/2 bulb 55w low 60w high.

I just went and yanked out the h4 bulb out of my del sol. Here's a pic.



<FONT SIZE="5">THE END</FONT>
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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 11:56 AM
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Hmmm, odd...because every H4 bulb I have seen, are higher wattage than the 9003's, oh well tho.. I guess you proved me wrong ?
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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 12:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fastwanabe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">9003 and H4 are the same thing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 12:17 PM
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Technically, 9003 and H4 are NOT the same. One is built to tighter tolerances due to vibration encountered in a motorcycle (H4).

A true 9003 will not fit in a true H4 housing, while a true H4 housing will fit in a true 9003 housing. A true 9003 has equal width lower tabs while a true H4's lower tabs are of a different size.

However, both sizes are now pretty much the same as there is no longer an issue about building the bulbs to tighter tolerances. In fact, most bulbs now have both "9003" and "H4" stamped on the base. The only thing you'll notice is price. Auto parts stores will sell one size a dollar or more than the other, even though they are probably the same bulb.
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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 12:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by r0yal &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hmmm, odd...because every H4 bulb I have seen, are higher wattage than the 9003's, oh well tho.. I guess you proved me wrong ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Do these H4s happen to be blue?

H4s sold by auto parts stores are 60/55.
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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 12:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicboisi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know the stock headlamps for EG's are 9003's but would H4's work also? They look the same, but dunno if they'll work in place of the stock lamps.

Also, i'm having problems installing my stock lamps. There's screws that hold down a metal clip or something? WTF is that for? I've never encountered these 9003's before and replacing one for the first times a pain in the butt considering it should just be a 1-2-3 thing.

Thanks In Advance.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You keep the screws. There's no reason to unscrew that clip. The clip operates similarly to a safety pin. You push the clip in and move it around the retaining hook and pop the clip out to get to the bulb.
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 12:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Outrun &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You keep the screws. There's no reason to unscrew that clip. The clip operates similarly to a safety pin. You push the clip in and move it around the retaining hook and pop the clip out to get to the bulb.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Someones gotta show me a pic of this clip in place because i did take it apart...dunno how it goes back on now...it's not holding my headlight in place either...
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 12:37 PM
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you took it apart and you dont know how to put it back together?

no part of this thread was 'quick'
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 09:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicboisi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Someones gotta show me a pic of this clip in place because i did take it apart...dunno how it goes back on now...it's not holding my headlight in place either...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Are you referring to the headlight as a whole? (lens, housing, etc) Or are you referring to just the lightbulb?
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 10:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Outrun &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Technically, 9003 and H4 are NOT the same. One is built to tighter tolerances due to vibration encountered in a motorcycle (H4).

A true 9003 will not fit in a true H4 housing, while a true H4 housing will fit in a true 9003 housing. A true 9003 has equal width lower tabs while a true H4's lower tabs are of a different size.

However, both sizes are now pretty much the same as there is no longer an issue about building the bulbs to tighter tolerances. In fact, most bulbs now have both "9003" and "H4" stamped on the base. The only thing you'll notice is price. Auto parts stores will sell one size a dollar or more than the other, even though they are probably the same bulb.</TD></TR></TABLE>

almost there. 9003 (HB2) bulbs are built to closer specs (smaller tolerances) than H4 bulbs. H4's (that do no meet 9003 specs) are not supposed to be used in US road cars, but they are allowed in motor cycles as well as off road vehicles.
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 10:16 PM
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i have always used h4 bulbs on my civic.
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