need help with ls motor and type r head
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need help with ls motor and type r head
i have a ls integra and i am going to be putting a type r head on it in the near future. but i do have a couple questions that i have and i want to have everything answered before i do it. besides the vtech solenoid and ecu what other parts will i need to make this work (and still be reliable of course)?????? and will i need to get the type r ecu or would a gsr unit work fine??? and would i need to change any of the internals at all with this setup not including the cams??? i will already be changing the cams and valve train when i do the head.
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Re: need help with ls motor and type r head (FST96Integra)
reliable? ls/vtec is not reliable bro. not worth ur money. ur gonna have to baby ur engine and feed it oil like crazy. and ur pistons r gonna get messed up. just buy the whole engine. if u cant afford a type r engine then get a gsr engine and build it into a type r. thumbs down to ls/vtec
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Re: need help with ls motor and type r head (tngay)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tngay »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ls-vtec is reliable as any other motor. it jsut depends on who built it and etc. </TD></TR></TABLE>
i agree with this guy. a properly built ls-v is just as reliable as any other honda motor handsdown.
i agree with this guy. a properly built ls-v is just as reliable as any other honda motor handsdown.
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Re: need help with ls motor and type r head (b-power)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by myDC4rox »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">reliable? ls/vtec is not reliable bro. not worth ur money. ur gonna have to baby ur engine and feed it oil like crazy. and ur pistons r gonna get messed up. just buy the whole engine. if u cant afford a type r engine then get a gsr engine and build it into a type r. thumbs down to ls/vtec</TD></TR></TABLE>
So um where are you getting your information from "bro"
to you giving out stupid information. I know plenty of people that have ls/vtec as there daily drivers and have no problems.
So um where are you getting your information from "bro"
to you giving out stupid information. I know plenty of people that have ls/vtec as there daily drivers and have no problems.
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Re: need help with ls motor and type r head (b18bme)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18bme »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
So um where are you getting your information from "bro" to you giving out stupid information. I know plenty of people that have ls/vtec as there daily drivers and have no problems.</TD></TR></TABLE>
He's retarded. Big surprise.
So um where are you getting your information from "bro"
to you giving out stupid information. I know plenty of people that have ls/vtec as there daily drivers and have no problems.</TD></TR></TABLE>He's retarded. Big surprise.
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Re: need help with ls motor and type r head (myDC4rox)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by myDC4rox »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">reliable? ls/vtec is not reliable bro. not worth ur money. ur gonna have to baby ur engine and feed it oil like crazy. and ur pistons r gonna get messed up. just buy the whole engine. if u cant afford a type r engine then get a gsr engine and build it into a type r. thumbs down to ls/vtec</TD></TR></TABLE>
I got a buddy that goes to texas state technical and hes getting two automotive associates degress. Ive heard from him and some other people that LSvtecs are some what troublesome, im not saying its a bad head by ne means, but the maintence cost will probably be more for that head than a gsrs
I got a buddy that goes to texas state technical and hes getting two automotive associates degress. Ive heard from him and some other people that LSvtecs are some what troublesome, im not saying its a bad head by ne means, but the maintence cost will probably be more for that head than a gsrs
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Re: need help with ls motor and type r head (SilentHill)
You're going to get a lot of poeple that are for, and against, ls/vtec. Really, you should just search and see what everyone else has said on the boards.
IMO, I'm not really for it, at least in stock trim (bottom end). In simple terms, you're taking a block that was designed to rev to a max of just under 7k, and revving it to 8k-8.5k, depending on head/ECU... It's simple physics, with R/S ratio, etc etc. Not to mention the VTEC blocks have oil squirters for cooling/lubrication...and there's a lot more too.
So just read what others say, some swear by it that ls/vtec is the best thing that ever happened to mankind, others say it's the complete opposite...
Oh and if you want a laugh:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=998573
As said by b20vtecTURBOnos, he's got vtec/ls...
IMO, I'm not really for it, at least in stock trim (bottom end). In simple terms, you're taking a block that was designed to rev to a max of just under 7k, and revving it to 8k-8.5k, depending on head/ECU... It's simple physics, with R/S ratio, etc etc. Not to mention the VTEC blocks have oil squirters for cooling/lubrication...and there's a lot more too.
So just read what others say, some swear by it that ls/vtec is the best thing that ever happened to mankind, others say it's the complete opposite...
Oh and if you want a laugh:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=998573
As said by b20vtecTURBOnos, he's got vtec/ls...
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Re: need help with ls motor and type r head (b62pteg#2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b62pteg#2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You're going to get a lot of poeple that are for, and against, ls/vtec. Really, you should just search and see what everyone else has said on the boards.
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I agree with this guy, you'll be suprised by the hundred's of links that you'll find by searching. ls/vtec can be a very reliable mod but you will need to build internals as well to handle the hi rpms. a good friend of mine hydrolocked his ls and he decided to build it
back up with ls/vtec. so far his clock is ticking to about $6,000 and he's having trouble getting the tuning right. Once it's done it will be a beast but that's alot of money for about 200 whp. You should read up on a ls turbo set up. It's cheaper (if you do the lsvtec the right way it is very expensive), it has a lot more room for future tuning and more upgrades, and if done correctly, it is very reliable. IMO go ls turbo.
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I agree with this guy, you'll be suprised by the hundred's of links that you'll find by searching. ls/vtec can be a very reliable mod but you will need to build internals as well to handle the hi rpms. a good friend of mine hydrolocked his ls and he decided to build it
back up with ls/vtec. so far his clock is ticking to about $6,000 and he's having trouble getting the tuning right. Once it's done it will be a beast but that's alot of money for about 200 whp. You should read up on a ls turbo set up. It's cheaper (if you do the lsvtec the right way it is very expensive), it has a lot more room for future tuning and more upgrades, and if done correctly, it is very reliable. IMO go ls turbo.
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From: glendale heights, il, usa
Re: need help with ls motor and type r head (RIX982DRLS)
ok so basically your saying that to be done the right (reliable) way i will also need a new crank and pistons. what about the little things like oil pump, water pump and fuel pump??? would those need to be upgraded as well????
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Re: need help with ls motor and type r head (myDC4rox)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by myDC4rox »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">reliable? ls/vtec is not reliable bro. not worth ur money. ur gonna have to baby ur engine and feed it oil like crazy. and ur pistons r gonna get messed up. just buy the whole engine. if u cant afford a type r engine then get a gsr engine and build it into a type r. thumbs down to ls/vtec</TD></TR></TABLE>
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=501372
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by myDC4rox »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">reliable? ls/vtec is not reliable bro... thumbs down to ls/vtec</TD></TR></TABLE>
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=501372
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by myDC4rox »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">reliable? ls/vtec is not reliable bro... thumbs down to ls/vtec</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: need help with ls motor and type r head (FST96Integra)
ok so if i were to go the turbo route then i just want to make sure that i have this right, parts wise anyway. i would need the turbo kit of course, intercooler, injectors, pistons, fuel pump, and a clutch. is that pretty much everything??? i just want to make sure i have all of the facts before i make a decision. if i am missing anything please tell me
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Re: need help with ls motor and type r head (myDC4rox)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by myDC4rox »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">**** ls/vtec</TD></TR></TABLE>
**** you.
Don't ****** pm me with **** saying I don't know **** if you're going to make posts like this.
You're an idiot and you should probably be banned.
**** you.
Don't ****** pm me with **** saying I don't know **** if you're going to make posts like this.
You're an idiot and you should probably be banned.
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Re: need help with ls motor and type r head (teggytegteg)
ok fellas look at this e-thug...this is what "myDC4rox" sent me in a pm. What a fucktard!!!!! god I wish i could meet some of these people in real life so I can slap them ok sorry for rambling but this is what he sent me.
"**** u ************, if u dont know **** about ls/vtec and if u aint got one. shut the **** up. i know from experience its not reliable u **** faced bitch. shut ur ****** trap and dont act like u know about cars. if ls/vtec was so reliable u *******, honda wouldve made it. not us. u dumb bitch.
myDC4rox (8:34 PM 1/7/2005): look up some reliability on the net for ls/vtec u **********. and then talk beeyotch"
"**** u ************, if u dont know **** about ls/vtec and if u aint got one. shut the **** up. i know from experience its not reliable u **** faced bitch. shut ur ****** trap and dont act like u know about cars. if ls/vtec was so reliable u *******, honda wouldve made it. not us. u dumb bitch.
myDC4rox (8:34 PM 1/7/2005): look up some reliability on the net for ls/vtec u **********. and then talk beeyotch"
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Re: need help with ls motor and type r head (FST96Integra)
instead of going throught the trouble of tapping your engine ect. buy a gsr block for your type r head. even put type r pistons in there. only difference that i know of is that the type r block is sleeved stock. right ?
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Re: need help with ls motor and type r head (SilentHill)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SilentHill »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I got a buddy that goes to texas state technical and hes getting two automotive associates degress. Ive heard from him and some other people that LSvtecs are some what troublesome, im not saying its a bad head by ne means, but the maintence cost will probably be more for that head than a gsrs</TD></TR></TABLE>
So two associates degrees makes your buddy an expert in Honda engine design and theory of operation??
Some people just want to be different, and run an LS/VTEC. Big deal... they'll do it halfway, blow their motor and learn their lesson, or do it right and have something a little different (and learn a lot in the process).
I got a buddy that goes to texas state technical and hes getting two automotive associates degress. Ive heard from him and some other people that LSvtecs are some what troublesome, im not saying its a bad head by ne means, but the maintence cost will probably be more for that head than a gsrs</TD></TR></TABLE>
So two associates degrees makes your buddy an expert in Honda engine design and theory of operation??
Some people just want to be different, and run an LS/VTEC. Big deal... they'll do it halfway, blow their motor and learn their lesson, or do it right and have something a little different (and learn a lot in the process).
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Re: need help with ls motor and type r head (b18bme)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18bme »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok fellas look at this e-thug...this is what "myDC4rox" sent me in a pm. What a fucktard!!!!! god I wish i could meet some of these people in real life so I can slap them ok sorry for rambling but this is what he sent me.
"**** u ************, if u dont know **** about ls/vtec and if u aint got one. shut the **** up. i know from experience its not reliable u **** faced bitch. shut ur ****** trap and dont act like u know about cars. if ls/vtec was so reliable u *******, honda wouldve made it. not us. u dumb bitch.
myDC4rox (8:34 PM 1/7/2005): look up some reliability on the net for ls/vtec u **********. and then talk beeyotch"
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Haha, by that logic, no one should be turbocharging B-series motors. Heck you probably shouldn't put an aftermarket muffler or intake, because if they were so great, Honda would've put them on from the factory, right?
"**** u ************, if u dont know **** about ls/vtec and if u aint got one. shut the **** up. i know from experience its not reliable u **** faced bitch. shut ur ****** trap and dont act like u know about cars. if ls/vtec was so reliable u *******, honda wouldve made it. not us. u dumb bitch.
myDC4rox (8:34 PM 1/7/2005): look up some reliability on the net for ls/vtec u **********. and then talk beeyotch"
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Haha, by that logic, no one should be turbocharging B-series motors. Heck you probably shouldn't put an aftermarket muffler or intake, because if they were so great, Honda would've put them on from the factory, right?
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Re: need help with ls motor and type r head (BUJonathan)
Lsvtec can be very reliable if you take care of it. Ive had mine forever now and its seen 8.5k on a few occasions at the track. Every once and a while ill get it up to like 6.5k just for fun but i drive it nice most of the time. I also change the oil every 2k and plugs every 5k or so. In a couple weeks i plan on adding arp rod bolts and changeing the rod bearings. the rod bolts are an awsome mod that will hold the motor together for a long time.