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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 11:59 PM
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i've heard of some people running toda spec b cams on turbo setups. is this true? if so are there any pro's/con's running them over say....stock gsr cams or ctr/itr cams. i'm just wondering how "streetable" running the toda b's would be and how they would work out under boost.

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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 01:56 AM
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Meh Toda b's run Toda D's

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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 09:24 AM
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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 10:53 AM
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Some people run the TODA Spec B's, but most of the time they were an N/A application and transferred over to boost. What happens is because there is TOO much overlap in the cams, they use the Cam Gears themselves to dial it out a little. From my experience, they were a bit too aggressive for the an FI application. The most people used were a SPEC A, which are slightly more aggressive and have a little more overlap than Type R cams, which can work with turbo setups quite decently. But if you have GS-R cams available, stick with them.
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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 12:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheShodan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Some people run the TODA Spec B's, but most of the time they were an N/A application and transferred over to boost. What happens is because there is TOO much overlap in the cams, they use the Cam Gears themselves to dial it out a little. From my experience, they were a bit too aggressive for the an FI application. The most people used were a SPEC A, which are slightly more aggressive and have a little more overlap than Type R cams, which can work with turbo setups quite decently. But if you have GS-R cams available, stick with them.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks for the reply, any others?
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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 12:04 AM
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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 09:12 AM
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I've also heard that the OEM GS-R and ITR cams w/cam gears are the best to use. I've also heard that the ITR cams may be a little to aggressive for the street but are great for the track.
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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 03:50 PM
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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 03:55 PM
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I agree with one of the comments made previously. TODA B cams will be too much lift and high-end compression for boost applications.
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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 09:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bar’dEK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I agree with one of the comments made previously. TODA B cams will be too much lift and high-end compression for boost applications. </TD></TR></TABLE>

too much lift and high-end compression for boost? idk about that one.

i figured all i would need to worry about is the duration, and as stated before that can be negated by cam tuning...
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 08:45 PM
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i guess i'll just find out when i dyno
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 05:09 AM
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if your going to run toda cams you have to run the spec a cams the b and c cams are for na set only... i talk to tada for a wile about using there cam for turbo.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheShodan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Some people run the TODA Spec B's, but most of the time they were an N/A application and transferred over to boost. What happens is because there is TOO much overlap in the cams, they use the Cam Gears themselves to dial it out a little. From my experience, they were a bit too aggressive for the an FI application. The most people used were a SPEC A, which are slightly more aggressive and have a little more overlap than Type R cams, which can work with turbo setups quite decently. But if you have GS-R cams available, stick with them.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 11:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EGkid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

too much lift and high-end compression for boost? idk about that one.

i figured all i would need to worry about is the duration, and as stated before that can be negated by cam tuning...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Cam gears would only decrease the overlap and not the actual duration of the cams. There is still a lot of degrees of duration on the Spec B's that would cause problems with boost. You also have to run stiffer valvesprings which in turn puts more stress on the valvetrain along with some parasitic loss/drag from running stiffer springs. In the end IMO, it's not worth the try.
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 06:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tony the Tiger &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Cam gears would only decrease the overlap and not the actual duration of the cams. There is still a lot of degrees of duration on the Spec B's that would cause problems with boost. You also have to run stiffer valvesprings which in turn puts more stress on the valvetrain along with some parasitic loss/drag from running stiffer springs. In the end IMO, it's not worth the try.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That was my point, exactly.. I just didn't want to get into an entire story about TODA Bs w/ valvetrain (which is a must) and all that..
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 07:04 PM
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well i have the valvetrain so i'm not worried about that...
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