i have a k20a type-r in a 98 coupe and my goal is to have over 300hp to the ground allmotor and i was wondering if anybody had any ideas to get me into my goal? i talked to one very reputable shop about it in cali and they said to go boost if i want those numbers. thanks for anybodys help


Modified by JDM_COUPE at 3:49 AM 12/30/2004


Modified by JDM_COUPE at 3:53 AM 12/30/2004

 

a good set of cams along with the typical bolt on's will be a good start off

 

well do as you would any other motor, bolt ons ie: cams i/h/e, ecu, and compression. oh yea head work too

 

That might be difficult right now. Head porters are still experimenting around with the K head.

 

i have no clue to what "off the shelf" products are out there and i dont feel like doing all the r&d myself costing my thousands on parts i dont need and i was just trying to get some suggestions so i can start on the rite foot.

and when you say bolt on parts i already have all of them i know of except for k-pro and im waiting to biuld my motor before i get that

 

iv seen a couple that high but the are complete full race motors, they are in no way daily driveable, or streetable for that matter, they ran on race gas
completly built motors, individual throttle bodies, the works
full weight reduction, tubed front end, 1 piece front end, full cage, race suspension, fuel cell everything
what are you using this car for
drag?
road course?
daily driver/weekend car?


btw iv seen other k20 swapped cars, with mods that put down about 220whp and they were running mid 12s, do a little more and ad some slicks and your running mid 11's and mid 11's are no joke thats a fast ******* car, thats ferrari/viper territory

12's whould probaly cost maybe 3 grand in parts
11's 6 or 7 grand
once you get into the low 12's/high 11's it gets harder and harder to get faster and more and more money to do so

300hp whould put you prob mid/ low 10'sand cost you a ton of money prob atleast 15 20 grand


hoped i helped a little good luck

 

from what i head the type-r head flows better than anybodys p&p on b series head

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01-0720 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">iv seen a couple that high but the are complete full race motors, they are in no way daily driveable, or streetable for that matter, they ran on race gas
completly built motors, individual throttle bodies, the works
full weight reduction, tubed front end, 1 piece front end, full cage, race suspension, fuel cell everything
what are you using this car for
drag?
road course?
daily driver/weekend car?


btw iv seen other k20 swapped cars, with mods that put down about 220whp and they were running mid 12s, do a little more and ad some slicks and your running mid 11's and mid 11's are no joke thats a fast ******* car, thats ferrari/viper territory

12's whould probaly cost maybe 3 grand in parts
11's 6 or 7 grand
once you get into the low 12's/high 11's it gets harder and harder to get faster and more and more money to do so

300hp whould put you prob mid/ low 10'sand cost you a ton of money prob atleast 15 20 grand


hoped i helped a little good luck</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats exacly what im looking for is 10s in a coupe full interior daily driven (streetable). i know its alot to ask for and shoot for but thats what im looking for

 

youl never get it full interior and daily driven
have you ever seen a 10 second car in person
they are no way daily drivable
there are so many thing that need to be done to run 10's it nuts
in the end youl have spent atleast 35,000 dollars on this car
its not worth it unless your crazy sponsered and dont pay for it

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01-0720 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">youl never get it full interior and daily driven
have you ever seen a 10 second car in person
they are no way daily drivable
there are so many thing that need to be done to run 10's it nuts
in the end youl have spent atleast 35,000 dollars on this car
its not worth it unless your crazy sponsered and dont pay for it</TD></TR></TABLE>

everybody tell me that it aint possible but thats what im shooting for. even i if i dont get it atleast ill still be in the low 11s. but im not really talking about the times im going to run i just want to put over 300 to the ground.

 

well more power to you if you can pull it off
its gonna take alot of cash and alot of work

goodluck

 

very deep pockets

 

does anybody have any ideas to help me get it or do i just buy this motor

 

dude thats like a 20,000 dollar motor
89 mm bore jesus
91mm stroke

no posible way to daily drive that motor
it whould need constant tuning
run race gas all the time atleast 110
incredable traction issues
then youd have build the trans
the suspension
and the rest of the car to handle the motor

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01-0720 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dude thats like a 20,000 dollar motor
89 mm bore jesus
91mm stroke

no posible way to daily drive that motor
it whould need constant tuning
run race gas all the time atleast 110
incredable traction issues
then youd have build the trans
the suspension
and the rest of the car to handle the motor</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have seen people daily drive far more extreme setups(10 second turbocharged setups, soon 9's).

No motor requires "constant tuning."
12 to 1 compression is plenty capable of running on pump gas.
You will have traction issues with any moderately powerful fwd car.
Any turbo motor would be harder on the trans than this would.

 

do you know anything about bore and stroke
that motor also has individual throttle bodies
and sorry dont mean constant
but it will need alot of initial tuning and to be tuned
on a regular basis

and i didnt say you cant daily drive and 10 sec car, iv seen it done also

i said you can daily drive that motor
thats a complete full race motor
it whould never last in traffic
and bullshit daily driving
being turned on a and off on and off and never beign let to cool down
id give it a month daily driven

 

this is just another kid behind a huge pipe dream.
strike 1. hes rollin a coupe.
strike 2. hes askin how to make this kinda power
strike 3. he thinks its goin to be daily driven.
strike 4. he thinks he can just go buy this kinda motor
strike 5. he believes that hytechs motor made 320HP when u look at the spec sheet it clearly shows only 12:1 CR and says ITBs, which are not on it. dont believe everything u see.
strike 6. hes just shootin for 300 to the ground cause ppl told him he cant do it.
strike 7. he thinks he can buy a motor for 20k but he doesnt wanna do the R@D to get that kinda HP.
strike 8. i reiterate, he thinks he can do this in a coupe.
strike 9. i must not go on. the urge is there but i think ive made my point. go home kid, ur dreamin. if u cant understand what i just said then u might want to take up knitting.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01-0720 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do you know anything about bore and stroke
that motor also has individual throttle bodies
and sorry dont mean constant
but it will need alot of initial tuning and to be tuned
on a regular basis

and i didnt say you cant daily drive and 10 sec car, iv seen it done also

i said you can daily drive that motor
thats a complete full race motor
it whould never last in traffic
and bullshit daily driving
being turned on a and off on and off and never beign let to cool down
id give it a month daily driven</TD></TR></TABLE>

89mm bore is more than adequate in a K block.
92mm stroke is way less than the 99 in a stock k24.
Providing that the original tune is good, it should not need to be retuned.
I know people who drive daily on ITBs. Its all about having a decent tuner.

Explain EXACTLY to me why this wouldn't survive.

 

To be fair, the ITBs are not on that motor because they didn't want people messing with them while the motor was on display.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rochesterricer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I have seen people daily drive far more extreme setups(10 second turbocharged setups, soon 9's).

No motor requires "constant tuning."
12 to 1 compression is plenty capable of running on pump gas.
You will have traction issues with any moderately powerful fwd car.
Any turbo motor would be harder on the trans than this would.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

I'm not trying to hate on you or anything, its just that you are making some rather large and rash generalizations about a motor you know very little about.

 

a cheaper way to come close to those numbers are a tsx bottum end with your k20 head do a search, it wont be cheap but that should put you around 250-270 whp... unless you buy the fully built motor at 320whp should be around 15-24 grand

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1 2 NV &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this is just another kid behind a huge pipe dream.
strike 1. hes rollin a coupe.
strike 2. hes askin how to make this kinda power
strike 3. he thinks its goin to be daily driven.
strike 4. he thinks he can just go buy this kinda motor
strike 5. he believes that hytechs motor made 320HP when u look at the spec sheet it clearly shows only 12:1 CR and says ITBs, which are not on it. dont believe everything u see.
strike 6. hes just shootin for 300 to the ground cause ppl told him he cant do it.
strike 7. he thinks he can buy a motor for 20k but he doesnt wanna do the R@D to get that kinda HP.
strike 8. i reiterate, he thinks he can do this in a coupe.
strike 9. i must not go on. the urge is there but i think ive made my point. go home kid, ur dreamin. if u cant understand what i just said then u might want to take up knitting.</TD></TR></TABLE>

im just some dumb kid thats wants 300+ to the ground but then again its just all a dreams. give me a ******* break.....i do have a k20a type-r in my car so dont think im not serious about wanting to make these numbers. and about it being in a coupe....thats where the motor is going to start, i also have a rex and a eg that i could put it in also if i wanted to. but i love putting **** in a coupe so people think its slow because its heavy.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1Quikgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a cheaper way to come close to those numbers are a tsx bottum end with your k20 head do a search, it wont be cheap but that should put you around 250-270 whp... unless you buy the fully built motor at 320whp should be around 15-24 grand </TD></TR></TABLE>

stock block with stock head wont ever put out 250-270. i highest i have seen is 230. i dont want to buy a already proven motor but want to biuld my own motor with products that are proven to make power.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rochesterricer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That might be difficult right now. Head porters are still experimenting around with the K head.</TD></TR></TABLE>
A good flowing head is one of the most key parts in making a powerful motor, as k heads are still experimental territory i suggest you stay with bolt ons for now with a good tune, wait around til k series's become more familliar to head porters country wide.