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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 08:23 PM
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They had a pro photog there and he has sent out some of his pics...







Sorry Karl, no biG piMpin or breakfast pics.
But I did have some surf and turf that was photo worthy.

Scott, who had fun at Skippy but learned that he is a production car racer.
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 08:32 PM
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Scott, who had fun at Skippy but learned that he is a production car racer.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Scott,

I started out in Skippy. Did the three day racing school, then the car control clinic, some lapping days and then the Eastern Regional Race Series. I had a blast in the race series.

Curious to know why you state you learned why you are a production car racer? I did the opposite of you (did the open wheel thing first, then to Spec Racers, and lastly to production racing).

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Jon P. Kofod
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 08:42 PM
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I actually really enjoyed the car alot.
But I have neck and back problems and frankly the thing beat the **** out of me to the point that it started to become no-so-much-fun by the end of the third day.

Luckily my hotel room was equipped with a whirlpool tub. I was in it nightly.

This was great for me, because before this I had considered such things as Formula cars and Sports Racers in the future. Now I've learned the easy way that I need to not even bother.
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 08:49 PM
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Catch,

Looks like tons of fun! Are those regular old street tires on the cars? What kinda speeds were you seeing?

I have a feeling I'll be in your boat as well, I don't think the doc is gonna clear me to go to karting school anytime soon.
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 05:12 AM
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Catch,

You raced a full season this past year(?), did you find that you still learned quite a bit a Skippy?
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 05:21 AM
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Aren't you going to Vegas for part 2 of the Skippy experience? When is that?
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 06:34 AM
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you admit you're getting old?

maybe you just didnt' get used to it yet. it probably worked some muscles that don't normally get used.
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 06:45 AM
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The school ended up being alot of the basics I already knew as far as the classroom, BUT, the cars themselves are not at all easy to drive and helped my car control out alot. I was also able to get some "side schooling" here and there in casual conversations with the instructors that was above the beginner level of the class.

Already did Vegas. I did OK (3rd fastest) but my partner (it was a team thing) was the 2nd or 3rd slowest guy there. Together we weren't even close. Not his fault, he had very little experience and actually did well all things considered.
The guys who won the $100K were from Wisconsin. One was a dirt circle track guy and the other had been karting since he was a kid. They pretty much whipped everybody as they were the only team with 2 experienced racers. Two of the other teams were like mine, they had one experienced guy (A Formula Ford Racer that had done a Skippy School before and a kart guy) and one guy with little to none.
Luck of the draw.

We had to be up at 6am every morning, so there wasn't very much "vegasing" going on, but it was still fun. I enjoyed the whole experience quite alot.

One thing if you are thinking about doing one of these schools. At Skippy (at least at mine) they actually push you to go faster. They make you trail brake and do alot of things out on the edge. Sometimes it seems like they want you to spin. I've been told the other schools (Bondurant, Russell, Roos) aren't like this.
So if you are experienced already, Skippy is probably the way to go.
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 06:58 AM
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looks like fun, but that "pro photog" sucks...
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 07:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Catch 22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The school ended up being alot of the basics I already knew as far as the classroom, BUT, the cars themselves are not at all easy to drive and helped my car control out alot. I was also able to get some "side schooling" here and there in casual conversations with the instructors that was above the beginner level of the class.

Already did Vegas. I did OK (3rd fastest) but my partner (it was a team thing) was the 2nd or 3rd slowest guy there. Together we weren't even close. Not his fault, he had very little experience and actually did well all things considered.
The guys who won the $100K were from Wisconsin. One was a dirt circle track guy and the other had been karting since he was a kid. They pretty much whipped everybody as they were the only team with 2 experienced racers. Two of the other teams were like mine, they had one experienced guy (A Formula Ford Racer that had done a Skippy School before and a kart guy) and one guy with little to none.
Luck of the draw.

We had to be up at 6am every morning, so there wasn't very much "vegasing" going on, but it was still fun. I enjoyed the whole experience quite alot.

One thing if you are thinking about doing one of these schools. At Skippy (at least at mine) they actually push you to go faster. They make you trail brake and do alot of things out on the edge. Sometimes it seems like they want you to spin. I've been told the other schools (Bondurant, Russell, Roos) aren't like this.
So if you are experienced already, Skippy is probably the way to go.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Scott,

There are usually one or two kart hot shoes at a Skippy school. Most of these kids are invited and are brutally fast. At my first school there was a very short kid about 15 or so named Ernesto. From the outset it was clear he was on a different planet.

I then raced with him in the Eastern Regional Series.

From the first day at Skippy School it was clear that this kid was going places. He showed up with his dad (they were from Venezuela where he was a karting champion). His dad was very well dressed and we were told he was quite wealthy in South America. Ernesto had his own camera man and pr person following him around taking video footage. THIS WAS FOR A 3 DAY SCHOOL !!!!!!

At the school al Bruce McInnes talked about was Juan Pablo this and Juan Pablo that. he mentioned this kid, Ernesto, to us as being the next JPM. I thought whatever.

In the Eastern Regional Series he won every race (14 of them) and in most instances lapped the entire field. During a wet lapping session (20 minutes) he lapped most of us twice. Coming down the front straight at Lime Rock in pouring rain I was struggling to keep the car on the track and trying to be hesitantly smooth at the end of the straight. He blew by me at what must have been 5-7 mph faster (quite a bit in the wet and in these cars). He ripped off 3 perfect heel n' toes and flew thought T2 and T3. I was blown away.

He won the UK F3 championship a year ago and halfway through this season he quit F3 and moved on to F3000 where he will be a front runner this season on his way to F1. He has already been promised a test with Williams at the end of 05 if his season goes well.

He has two things needed to get to F1...Money and talent.

Here is his website: http://www.ernestoviso.com/

I am hoping he makes it to F1 someday so I can say I raced.............ugh....let me rephrase that.........I was on the track with him

Regards,

Jon
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 07:59 AM
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i wouldn't mind getting owned by someone like that. what a lucky guy. he's only 19, but already been driving for 12 years. started in 93 when he was like 7-8 yo...

http://www.ernestoviso.com/biography.htm

with that much seat time he better be good.

hey Jon, how is it that you're co champ in ECHC H4? i don't get it.
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 08:19 AM
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Fully exlpained here: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1048880

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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 08:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ghettoracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">maybe you just didnt' get used to it yet. it probably worked some muscles that don't normally get used.</TD></TR></TABLE>



Open-wheel cars will destroy an unconditioned body before long. Working out probably helps in production-car racing, but in open-wheel stuff it seems like a pre-requisite.

Scott, I seem to remember that you don't heel-toe because of a bum ankle or knee or something. Did that handicap you at all?
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 08:40 AM
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niiiice. you guys had an awesome season!!! what a finish.

ross: yah when i kart once in a while i feel some muscle strains the 1st day. but if i go again in 2-3 days, i feel nothing.
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 09:36 AM
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My issues are not muscle related. Its all connecting tissue and spinal disc stuff.
And yes Ross, you MUST heel/toe these cars as they have no syncros. It was an issue for me.

The only muscle soreness was in my forearms.
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 11:11 AM
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I see. Disregard Frank and I calling you fat, then.

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Ack. How did you manage?
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 11:25 AM
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Ack. How did you manage?</TD></TR></TABLE>

1. Convince Chief Instructor to adjust the brake and gas pedals closer than what he's comfortable with.
2. Concentrate HARD.
3. Miss a bunch of downshifts anyway.
4. Take lots of Aleve.

That about sums it up.
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 11:27 AM
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so that explains RJ's "workout" routine.....
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 11:32 AM
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RJs routine is likely fine for a power assisted steering hype-R, but he'll need to work out with something much heavier to do 45 minute sessions in formula cars.

Hee Hee.
Wheeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 11:36 AM
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Are you volunteering?

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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 12:11 PM
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Why?
You need some relief?

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Why?
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.RJ doesn't have as big of a mouth as he thinks he does.

You should be fine.

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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 01:05 PM
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I'm not completely sure what you mean by that. And I'm OK with not knowing.

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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 01:36 PM
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Really, I'm just jealous. The most driving instruction I've gotten in the past two years is "Go faster, stop spinning!"

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looks so fun man!!!
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