si vs. integra rear disc brakes
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si vs. integra rear disc brakes
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im curious, i know with the eg's, the teg rear discs bolt up just fine. i have a 99ex and my drums are about dead. instead of doing the rear shoes, i figured that the discs would be easier and more or less the same cost in the end. for the 96-00 ex, is the only option to use the 99-00 si rear trailing arms? thanks
im curious, i know with the eg's, the teg rear discs bolt up just fine. i have a 99ex and my drums are about dead. instead of doing the rear shoes, i figured that the discs would be easier and more or less the same cost in the end. for the 96-00 ex, is the only option to use the 99-00 si rear trailing arms? thanks
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Re: si vs. integra rear disc brakes (eK9aT10pSi)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eK9aT10pSi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1090775
im curious, i know with the eg's, the teg rear discs bolt up just fine. i have a 99ex and my drums are about dead. instead of doing the rear shoes, i figured that the discs would be easier and more or less the same cost in the end. for the 96-00 ex, is the only option to use the 99-00 si rear trailing arms? thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>
You can use any '90-01 Integra, '88-00 Civic, '93-97 del Sol, or '88-91 CRX rear discs. They are all the same.
You don't have to swap the entire trailing arm if you don't want to, either. You can use your existing trailing arms and just bolt the disc brake hub assembles on.
im curious, i know with the eg's, the teg rear discs bolt up just fine. i have a 99ex and my drums are about dead. instead of doing the rear shoes, i figured that the discs would be easier and more or less the same cost in the end. for the 96-00 ex, is the only option to use the 99-00 si rear trailing arms? thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>
You can use any '90-01 Integra, '88-00 Civic, '93-97 del Sol, or '88-91 CRX rear discs. They are all the same.
You don't have to swap the entire trailing arm if you don't want to, either. You can use your existing trailing arms and just bolt the disc brake hub assembles on.
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Re: si vs. integra rear disc brakes (Targa250R)
so as far as the rear trailing arm goes, it doesnt matter then? i guess it matters for the front then and not the rear. but with the gsr rear trailing arms, wouldnt the ek strut have fitiment [sp] issues ?
also, ur saying that the arms are the same, just different hubs ? so i could just get the si hubs, the e-brake cables, rear calipers, rotors ?
also, ur saying that the arms are the same, just different hubs ? so i could just get the si hubs, the e-brake cables, rear calipers, rotors ?
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Re: si vs. integra rear disc brakes (eK9aT10pSi)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eK9aT10pSi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so as far as the rear trailing arm goes, it doesnt matter then? i guess it matters for the front then and not the rear. but with the gsr rear trailing arms, wouldnt the ek strut have fitiment [sp] issues ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I believe '90-93 Integra trailing arms may be slightly different (or is it just the bushing and compensator arms?), but as I said, you don't have to swap the entire trailing arm, though most people do for some reason.
As far as damper fitment goes, the shock bolts to the lower control arm, not the trailing arm . . .
I believe '90-93 Integra trailing arms may be slightly different (or is it just the bushing and compensator arms?), but as I said, you don't have to swap the entire trailing arm, though most people do for some reason.
As far as damper fitment goes, the shock bolts to the lower control arm, not the trailing arm . . .
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Re: si vs. integra rear disc brakes (eK9aT10pSi)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eK9aT10pSi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also, ur saying that the arms are the same, just different hubs ? so i could just get the si hubs, the e-brake cables, rear calipers, rotors ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Pretty much.
Pretty much.
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Re: si vs. integra rear disc brakes (Targa250R)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You can use any '90-01 Integra, '88-00 Civic, '93-97 del Sol, or '88-91 CRX rear discs. They are all the same.
You don't have to swap the entire trailing arm if you don't want to, either. You can use your existing trailing arms and just bolt the disc brake hub assembles on.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You can use any '90-01 Integra, '88-00 Civic, '93-97 del Sol, or '88-91 CRX rear discs. They are all the same.
You don't have to swap the entire trailing arm if you don't want to, either. You can use your existing trailing arms and just bolt the disc brake hub assembles on.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: si vs. integra rear disc brakes (racer_x_eg)
for the front upgrade [99 ex], the gsr would be the eaisest to maintain the 4x100 pattern. jsut a thought, would it be possible to get the gsr caliper, bracket, rotors and pads and bolt on?
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Re: si vs. integra rear disc brakes (eK9aT10pSi)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eK9aT10pSi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for the front upgrade [99 ex], the gsr would be the eaisest to maintain the 4x100 pattern. jsut a thought, would it be possible to get the gsr caliper, bracket, rotors and pads and bolt on?</TD></TR></TABLE>
EXes already have 10.3" front rotors. The only difference between Civic EX and G3 Integra front brakes are the calipers and pads.
EXes already have 10.3" front rotors. The only difference between Civic EX and G3 Integra front brakes are the calipers and pads.
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I'm purchasing an EG this week, in the future, when I do the rear brake swap, I will need a bigger master cylinder correct?
I've noticed in my 92 Accord there is two cylinders, is that because of ABS?
I've noticed in my 92 Accord there is two cylinders, is that because of ABS?
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Re: si vs. integra rear disc brakes (eK9aT10pSi)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eK9aT10pSi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
also, ur saying that the arms are the same, just different hubs ? so i could just get the si hubs, the e-brake cables, rear calipers, rotors ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
you also need to get the disc brake soft lines.
disc brakes use banjo fittings at the caliper end while drum brakes use standard threaded ends at the valve.
also, ur saying that the arms are the same, just different hubs ? so i could just get the si hubs, the e-brake cables, rear calipers, rotors ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
you also need to get the disc brake soft lines.
disc brakes use banjo fittings at the caliper end while drum brakes use standard threaded ends at the valve.
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so part # 2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 28, 29 ?
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The part that he was talking about is actually attached to the rear trailing arm. It's the small spindle attached to part numbers 14 & 15 in my picture. They are not sold seperatly from honda. It is the complete spindle that those hub/bearing units slide onto. They are held in place by four large star drive bolts (not sure what size driver removes them). This is the piece that has the caliper mounting brackets & you won't be able to do a swap without it.
Don't forget your rear disc e-brake cables & a 40/40 proportioning valve.
so part # 2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 28, 29 ?
TIA</TD></TR></TABLE>
The part that he was talking about is actually attached to the rear trailing arm. It's the small spindle attached to part numbers 14 & 15 in my picture. They are not sold seperatly from honda. It is the complete spindle that those hub/bearing units slide onto. They are held in place by four large star drive bolts (not sure what size driver removes them). This is the piece that has the caliper mounting brackets & you won't be able to do a swap without it.
Don't forget your rear disc e-brake cables & a 40/40 proportioning valve.
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Re: (br0nx finest)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by br0nx finest »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm purchasing an EG this week, in the future, when I do the rear brake swap, I will need a bigger master cylinder correct?
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No.
A bigger master cylinder is only needed when you get bigger front brakes.
Consider this as proof:
My wife's 1992 Si hatch with factory 4-wheel discs and it has the small 13/16ths master cylinder. A 1992 CX with rear drums carries that same exact master cylinder.
If you put on the 15/16ths master cylinder with factory-sized front brakes the pedal will be rock-hard and it can actually INCREASE stopping distances - not good.
My suggestion is to add bigger FRONT brakes over rear discs. You will not notice any difference in stopping distances with rear discs and small fronts IMO.l
My pal's 1992 Dx with stock rear drums and Integra front brakes stops way shorter than my wife's Si Hb with all 4 discs and small front brakes.
Also of note is that you want to add a new prop valve from the donor rear disc car - that's what you'll want instead of the bigger M/C.
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No.
A bigger master cylinder is only needed when you get bigger front brakes.
Consider this as proof:
My wife's 1992 Si hatch with factory 4-wheel discs and it has the small 13/16ths master cylinder. A 1992 CX with rear drums carries that same exact master cylinder.
If you put on the 15/16ths master cylinder with factory-sized front brakes the pedal will be rock-hard and it can actually INCREASE stopping distances - not good.
My suggestion is to add bigger FRONT brakes over rear discs. You will not notice any difference in stopping distances with rear discs and small fronts IMO.l
My pal's 1992 Dx with stock rear drums and Integra front brakes stops way shorter than my wife's Si Hb with all 4 discs and small front brakes.
Also of note is that you want to add a new prop valve from the donor rear disc car - that's what you'll want instead of the bigger M/C.
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I dissagree, i have a 94 EG hatch, and after installing integra rear disc i noticed a condsiderable increase in stoping power. U might not think so but the rear actually contribitues about 20-30% of the total stoping power, not to mention disc has much more bite than drum.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bseriescivic5 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I dissagree, i have a 94 EG hatch, and after installing integra rear disc i noticed a condsiderable increase in stoping power. U might not think so but the rear actually contribitues about 20-30% of the total stoping power, not to mention disc has much more bite than drum.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well then we'll just agree to disagree then.
The front brakes do the majority of your stopping, so going from a 9.5 to a 10.4 rotor up front with larger calipers and pads will make WAY bigger of a difference then rear discs alone.
Well then we'll just agree to disagree then.
The front brakes do the majority of your stopping, so going from a 9.5 to a 10.4 rotor up front with larger calipers and pads will make WAY bigger of a difference then rear discs alone.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B20badboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a 91 civic hatch with teg fronts and never changed the booster P valve or anything and they work perfect.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The bigger master cylinder bascially improves pedal feel by leaps and bounds, but bigger fronts with the stock M/C will still stopp well, but they will require more brake pedal travel.
The bigger master cylinder bascially improves pedal feel by leaps and bounds, but bigger fronts with the stock M/C will still stopp well, but they will require more brake pedal travel.
