my girlfriend have a 2001 accord with the basic bolt-on ( intake, header, exhaust ),
but its still slow as a slow turtle. does anyone here knows if the engine is capable of pushing out 170whp? if so, what other mods do i need to do? is it even worth it, or should i just do an H22 swap? the goal is to get it to 170whp. any help or suggestions would be deeply appreciated. thanks for reading.

 

Well, you could put a turbo on it. Depends if you want N/A or not.

 

h2 swaps in 6th gen accords are dumb.

 

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this comment in itself is dumb...

 

turbo the bitch... f series sure can take the beating if done right.

tell me its not an auto.

 

Oh I see the flaming Honda-Tech member had to arrive. 1st off I am no noob to Honda so i will explain my resoning.

I have been around alot and have not seen alot of people doign the h22 swap, reson being that there are better options for power than swaping in a h22 that has low TQ for that car, it would be like saying swap in a s2000 engine in it. car weights too much, it NEEDS TQ.

 

what makes me a flamer? your comment was ignorant.. end of story. read what you posted and tell me it wasn't ignorant.


in reality plenty of people have done the h22 swap into the 6th gen and it has proved big gains over their dinky f23. it might be a personal opinion that what your saying "h2 swaps in 6th gen accords are dumb."

so tell me why do people swap zc motors into their rex or put a y8 motor into their z6?
whatevers...

 

The H has comparable torque and it's a good sturdy build. What's your point? While boost is better than a swap, it's definitely not a downgrade...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CDEEE5 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Oh I see the flaming Honda-Tech member had to arrive. 1st off I am no noob to Honda so i will explain my resoning.

I have been around alot and have not seen alot of people doign the h22 swap, reson being that there are better options for power than swaping in a h22 that has low TQ for that car, it would be like saying swap in a s2000 engine in it. car weights too much, it NEEDS TQ.</TD></TR></TABLE>
go home fish... if youre not going to say anything useful, than dont say anything at all.

and i agree, i think for your situation boosting would be good. just make sure you take it to someone that really knows what theyre doing. youre not going to be boosting any crazy amount, so it will be very reliable... as far a turbo goes, that is. you will also make alot
more torque than you would with a basic h22 swap.

 

and 170 whp will be cake.

 

MY appologies. I was here before and a member was a extreme ******* twords me (and he was proven wrong) and i might have been holding a grudge. I will post a better comment next time and try to aide this forum in accord and other honda information.


again sorry and lets move on...did not mean to come off that way but I am a bigger man and will take this as a lesson.

 

 

you can easily achieve your 170whp goal if you boosted...IMO that would be the easiest way for dependable HP gains...i would bo boost definately over the h22 swap b/c youll end up spending about the same for either the swap or turbo kit and the boost will give u more power...GO BOOST!

 

The F23 is capable of at least 281whp/281wtq on stock internals. 6thgenaccord1 puts up those numbers at only 10psi.

 

i say you do the h22 swap since it is for your gf car.. there nothing wrong with turbo, im just thinking that your gf would want a reliable car...i did both ways and loving it rigth now..

 

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That is very impressive!

 

what if the accord was an auto? i have an auto accord, and i wanna slap a turbo on it. am i gonna blow my tranny, even if i dont boost that much?

 

Yes you will. Low boost + tranny cooler will give you a good life on it. But 6th gen trannies are built incorrectly, some people are on their 3rd and 4th, i'm on my 2nd. It's not a good combo. Autos are good for boost because you stay IN boost, but these accord autos are awful. You can prolong its life but not keep it...

 

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I think that's mostly V6 trannies that are weak. I know of atleast one guy with an auto I4 6th gen running a 75 shot and AFAIK, his tranny hasn't blown yet. Of course the tranny cooler is mandatory.

 

It's 4 cyls too I'm a 4 cyl and it's my 2nd. And I havent used Nitrous or forced induction. The warranty also covers 4 cyls as well as 6 cyls

 

http://www.customtints.com/Hon...i.wmv

heres what i was able to pull off street tuning a AEM EMS on my stock F23 engine. 17psi on a drag kit, made 209whp/221wtq @8.4psi

btw, still trying to get rid of my Drag turbo kit if anyone is interested. $1,500 or best offer.

btw, the money spent on a H22 swap is at least $3,500, u'll put down around 170whp, IMHO, turboing is the way to go. i ran side-by-side with a SS camarro on the highway @14psi side-by-side with MACH1s @10psi

 

its does not cost 3,500 to do a h swap in the 6th gen accord..i didn't spend near that amount...but it mite be different in some other state??

 

The cost of the motor is included in that estimate of $3500.

 

so let me get this if i turbo my car it will blow the tranie not the engine? i have an auto for now. and if i was to put my tuebo on now with a trannie cooler can i run on it for like 4-6 monthes untill i get my new one?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shanevas2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so let me get this if i turbo my car it will blow the tranie not the engine? i have an auto for now. and if i was to put my tuebo on now with a trannie cooler can i run on it for like 4-6 monthes untill i get my new one?</TD></TR></TABLE>

You can blow both if youd like. The block can handle about 10 lbs of boost without problems because it's built tough. The auto tranny can't take anything because it's not a good one. A tranny cooler will buy you time. Some people have shitty luck (me) and another fellow on here has had a turboed auto without any problems for over a year now. It's careful driving and proper maintenance, and a few safety precautions, that will keep your car running strong.