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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 08:53 AM
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Default Need clarification on forum ABS topics

Anyone ever resolve the following conflicting information about the ABS codes on this forum, -- how to access the codes? -- and how to delete them?

HOW TO RETRIEVE ABS CODES:

Martaigne said: <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Martaigne &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think there's a second jumper next to the service connector you can jump but don't quote me on that. I'll check my Helms tomorrow. I know there are three there, one is for the CEL, one is for SRS, and I think the third is ABS. You'd jump the connector, turn the key to ON, and count the flashes... ABS is set up you you'll get the first digit in flashes, a pause, then the second digit in flashes, then a longer pause and repeat.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I did not read any follow thru about the separate ABS connector or if the codes are accessed thru the CEL OBDI little blue connector.

Jim Blake said: <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jim Blake &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">"There's a wire connector tucked up above the right kick-panel. You short it with a paper clip & the check-engine light flashes its code. The ABS light flashes it's own code at the same time. (Whichever one or both have any stored errors."</TD></TR></TABLE>


KEY ON KEY OFF PROCEDURE:

Also, some posts refer to a key on key off procedure once, twice, or three times? It is all speculation. There were no follow ups clearing up or clarifying the topic. If there is not a separate connector for the ABS is there a different key on key off procedure for the ABS than there is for retrieving just the regular engine the codes?


DELETING ABS CODES

The Haynes manual says to remove the 7.5 backup fuse in the engine compartment's main fuse block to erase the CEL codes. But what about erasing the ABS codes - remove battery cables? pull 7.5 amp fuse? other fuse? something else?


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Old Dec 25, 2004 | 01:22 AM
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Default Re: Need clarification on forum ABS topics (diyer)

Never tested mine(well, except i was in the shop with alldata system)

but jim always gave me the right info 110percent
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 08:05 AM
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Default AND THE WINNER IS ...

JIM BLAKE.

Well, martaigne is wrong and Jim Blake is right. There is no second OBDI connector, only the one for the CEL, which serves both functions. I was more familiar with the European OBD I diagnostic modules, which blink at the connector itself.

But I'm curious, if a vehicle has several fault codes going on at the same time, how does the blinking readout work in that instance? Originally I thought there might be a separate connector for each system, because of having to watch the blinking codes for the CEL and for the ABS at the same time. I


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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 05:08 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by diyer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">... if a vehicle has several fault codes going on at the same time, how does the blinking readout work in that instance? ...</TD></TR></TABLE>I guess then it gets confusing watching all those lights. I've never had to try that (yet).

The engine codes keep repeating themselves over & over, so I suppose you should read the ABS codes first, since MAYBE(??) they repeat a couple times & then clear themselves. The engine codes don't clear until you reset the ECU.

But really, if you don't fix something, the code just keeps coming back. So you'll get another chance to read it.
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 06:57 AM
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since you have a 94 accord there is the cel cable to check those codes and beside it under the glove box on the passenger side, there is a two-pin connectot. Both are blue, just jump the two pin one for the abs code with a paperclip
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 07:19 AM
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NOTE: I deleted this post because I wanted to quote (jbkiksass69) and forgot to, so read my reply with the quote -- diyer
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 07:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jbkiksass69 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">since you have a 94 accord there is the cel cable to check those codes and beside it under the glove box on the passenger side, there is a two-pin connectot. Both are blue, just jump the two pin one for the abs code with a paperclip</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't believe it! There is only one code connector for any and all codes. Do you work for a Honda dealer losing their rip offs to DIY'ers. Post like yours only recreates confusion for newbies trying to do the right thing - AND YOU KNOW IT WHOEVER YOU REALLY ARE! The automotive repair business is filled with some of the most sleaze, lying, pieces of human garbage that ever existed. I'm not sure which is worse, lawyers or incompetent mehcanics. Obviously, anyone who read my post and what I eventually discovered and sucessfully did could easily conclude that there is only one connector to access for ANY and ALL CODES.

diyer

PS. I know your gonna gripe about my comment: Claiming innocence are you!? Well, read your own post and think about someone who knows nothing and does a topic and reads only your post, and reads about you talking about a cable, and then a connector, and then a 2 pin ABS thing, etc. NO WAY HOZAY, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ATTEMPTED. PLEASE edit and DELETE your "confusion causing" unnecessary comment and incorrect information! T H E R E I S N O S E P A R A T E
A B S C O N N E C T O R!!!

Current Honda: 5th Gen, 94 Accord Ex, 4 Dr, F22B1 V-TEC, Auto Trans, CD5 Chassis, 160K
Thank you all,
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