the 16 tranny bolts onto the hseries motors ive seen it done no more finding m2f4s or b4s hahaha

 

???...any pics or any more elaboration to this???curious because I thought an adaptor plate is necessary

 

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I'm sure it requires an adapter plate, that's something the other guy either didn't realize or failed to mention. There's nothing special about the B16 tranny when compared to all the other B series tranny's so unless that particular B16 tranny case decided to reshape itself mysteriously overnight, there's no way it will bolt up to an H22 without using a bell housing adapter.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2point2eg6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the 16 tranny bolts onto the hseries motors ive seen it done no more finding m2f4s or b4s hahaha</TD></TR></TABLE>I call BS on this one.

 

adapter plate.
i dont see the point of putting a tranny that will cost more when buying a used one as compared to an H series tranny.

 

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Thats what I was thinking, cause I was following the thread on the custom adaptor plate

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by v4lu3s &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">adapter plate.
i dont see the point of putting a tranny that will cost more when buying a used one as compared to an H series tranny.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, it is a bit smaller for crx and custom installs and the the gear ratios are better than the h trannies....but since I don't ahve any personal experience and am just going off what i read on here, I'm not trying to defend the point 100 percent

 

well the b series trannys are built alot better then an h series.Plus you have got a rod shifter appoused to the cable ones which everyone knows who has had an h series swap knows how much those cables can be a pain a some times.So the advantage is the gearing ratios of the b series trannys and you can on throttle the **** out of them and not have to worry about cables binding up, plus the vtec trannys are duall sycronizers.

 

so with that b16 tranny, time to launch in like 3rd gear hahaha?

 

well i own both H and B series cars, and i honestly dont think that B series have better ratios...they do for B series engines, and they do have slightly more variety in gearing but i feel the gearing in the various H22 trannies is better for a stronger toquier engine.
and with new cables that are properly run i havent seen any kind of binding issues.

 

tell that to bisimoto, ask him the reason he went to a d series tranny.He will tell you that after over 100 races no problems with the tranny as opposed to the h and f series trannys, he was going threw so many every season.So yes they may be desighned for torquer motors but they still don't have the durability as a b or even a d series tranny.And i don't care what nobody says, a b series tranny fells a hell of alot better when driven hard.Way better then an h series.I personally want to do an f23 with am h22 head, and a cable b16 tranny, that would be a awesome hybrid.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by per4mance &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">tell that to bisimoto, ask him the reason he went to a d series tranny.He will tell you that after over 100 races no problems with the tranny as opposed to the h and f series trannys, he was going threw so many every season.So yes they may be desighned for torquer motors but they still don't have the durability as a b or even a d series tranny.And i don't care what nobody says, a b series tranny fells a hell of alot better when driven hard.Way better then an h series.I personally want to do an f23 with am h22 head, and a cable b16 tranny, that would be a awesome hybrid. </TD></TR></TABLE>

did you not read my post? lol. the b16 tranny would be great for uh mad tite fwd drifting i guess, and smoke shows, you'll be able to break traction whenever the hell you want. as if it isn't bad enough already with the stock h22 haha

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by per4mance &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">tell that to bisimoto, ask him the reason he went to a d series tranny.He will tell you that after over 100 races no problems with the tranny as opposed to the h and f series trannys, he was going threw so many every season.So yes they may be desighned for torquer motors but they still don't have the durability as a b or even a d series tranny.And i don't care what nobody says, a b series tranny fells a hell of alot better when driven hard.Way better then an h series.I personally want to do an f23 with am h22 head, and a cable b16 tranny, that would be a awesome hybrid. </TD></TR></TABLE>

umm Bisi afaik kept teh D series since he already had a LOT of investment into the D series custom gear sets.
i havent ever heard of him using the F series tranny at all. in fact in teh Drag sport magazine he was quoted as saying he stuck with teh D sereies tranny since he had the custom gears all ready. would you like me to scan teh article and post it perhaps?

 

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umm Bisi afaik kept teh D series since he already had a LOT of investment into the D series custom gear sets.
i havent ever heard of him using the F series tranny at all. in fact in teh Drag sport magazine he was quoted as saying he stuck with teh D sereies tranny since he had the custom gears all ready. would you like me to scan teh article and post it perhaps?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes you are exactly correct that is the reason.I built the motor mounts
for his D motor and started to do the F motor mounts and adaptor plate .But I moved to PHX and couldn't finish them.And I also have seen a H22 with a hyd. B-series transmission.

 

Very strange post.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rochesterricer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Very strange post. </TD></TR></TABLE>
No **** I have one at work.The B-series trans bolts straight up to a H22 with no problem.And the flywheel, clutch and throw out bearing all work
perfect.Oh yeah and the slave cylinder.

 

Your sarcasm is priceless.

 

RS machines was working on a adapter plate for a b series trans to a h22 block. I called all the time to see the progress on the kit with the only response of extended dates. Imagine a h22 into a ef with a b16 trans. You wouldn't have to worry about axle combinations or cutting into the unibody for the shifter cables. As to smoking third gear, who cares. Who roles to the track on street tires? Anybody doing so is not fast or wishing they brought the right combination for traction. h22, B16 trans, light Ef,=goodtimes

 

Well, i have 300 engine swaps in stock, so for ***** and giggles i took both an h22 block and a b series trany....no way! Not without some type of adaptor will it fit, i'm not surprised.

 

I can't remember the website, but there was a guy on it who had a picture of a b-series tranny bolted up to a h22, If I can find the website i'll post pics later. But I dont know if the the guy just rigged it up for the pic or really did it. I must find that website!!!!

 

Nobody asked ,But what I did was put an h22 trans in the mill and cut the bell housing part off the trans .Then I did the same to the B series trans .Then i took
a line up bar and bolted in the main caps of the H22.Then bolted the one half to the H22 block.The I used the line up bar to line up the B series trans half and welded them together,And you cant even tell its been done.

 

listen to this guy he knows his shyt and yes a fu**ing adapter is needed anyone that says that a b series tranny will bolt directly to a h of f series block is smoking shyt.!

 

Chris did you read what I said I did. There is no adapter plate.Also how you BEAN?Did I ever tell you about the 16 port B-16 head.At 28 in. int 296 ex. 217 @ .500. Whats crazy is how much it flowed at .300 on up.

 

It seems to me that the primary advantage of using a B series tranny would be the relative ease of getting a getting a limited slip B series tranny as compared to a limited slip H series tranny. The offset cost of selling the H tranny, buying the LSD B tranny, plus an adapter plate and a mount, might indeed be more cost effective than buying a Quaife for an H and paying for someone to put it in, or having to go through the hell of tracking down a Euro R tranny.

 

I know some Prelude guys that are always complaing about the lack of durability in the H tranny.

Also, in a swap, this allows for nearly perfect axle angles.

 

i been kool just working and dynoin and **** and oh my god you finished that head?? wow