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Old Dec 18, 2004 | 12:37 PM
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i have an obd-2 jdm b16a in my 92 cx and i redline a right before 7000. Why is this? and whats the best ecu for this motor cuz i'm running a p72 right now.
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Old Dec 18, 2004 | 12:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civiceg_92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have an obd-2 jdm b16a in my 92 cx and i redline a right before 7000. Why is this? and whats the best ecu for this motor cuz i'm running a p72 right now.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You redline before 7000 ...lol?..you mean lose power? The right ecu to run is the pr3. Are you running obd2 or 1?
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Old Dec 18, 2004 | 12:54 PM
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i got a chipped obd1 p28 wanna trade for your p72??
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Old Dec 18, 2004 | 01:01 PM
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its an obd2 motor with an obd1 p72
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Old Dec 18, 2004 | 01:29 PM
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wheres the pr3 from?
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Old Dec 18, 2004 | 01:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civiceg_92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wheres the pr3 from?</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Dec 18, 2004 | 01:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ProJectCvic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You redline before 7000 ...lol?..you mean lose power? The right ecu to run is the pr3. Are you running obd2 or 1?</TD></TR></TABLE>

pr3 = non OBD. the correct obd1 B16 ecu is the P30. i ran a chipped p28 won my old b16
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Old Dec 18, 2004 | 01:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dantastic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

pr3 = non OBD. the correct obd1 B16 ecu is the P30. i ran a chipped p28 won my old b16</TD></TR></TABLE>

hahah sorry man..my bad. Yea..it is the p30.

EDIT.....NO wait, i was right pr3 ecu's came as obd 0 and as obd 1..... the obd 1 pr3's are a highly wanted ecu. This is what i remember.


Modified by ProJectCvic at 4:58 PM 12/18/2004
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Old Dec 18, 2004 | 02:08 PM
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Maybe you are redlining early because you are nervous, or cant perform under pressure. Have you seen any therapists about the problem?
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Old Dec 18, 2004 | 02:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ProJectCvic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

hahah sorry man..my bad. Yea..it is the p30.

EDIT.....NO wait, i was right pr3 ecu's came as obd 0 and as obd 1..... the obd 1 pr3's are a highly wanted ecu. This is what i remember.


Modified by ProJectCvic at 4:58 PM 12/18/2004</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea man you are right anthony. The obd1 pr3 was found in 92-93 integra zsi (170hp b16). <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jlacoy82 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Maybe you are redlining early because you are nervous, or cant perform under pressure. Have you seen any therapists about the problem?</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Dec 18, 2004 | 03:36 PM
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i skimmed the thread.... i didnt see it mentioned. but it youre in limp mode, your redline is automatically reduced to 6800. if you have a CEL you need to get that taken care of.
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Old Dec 18, 2004 | 03:49 PM
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I have the same setup except I'm running a P30.
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 02:04 AM
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whats limp mode? and how much is the obd1 pr3 and p30 worth compared to my p72
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 06:56 AM
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it all depends on who you get the computers from.

limp mode is when your car senses that there is somethign wrong with maybe the fuel system, or the o2 sensor, or anything that could possible cause harm to the car that would also throw a CEL. limp mode is basically a safety mode that honda programmed into the computers. when it senses something wrong. like fuel delievery. it will automatically go into a rich fuel state, and your redline will lower, and you wont have VTEC. only to prevent bad things from happeneing
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 07:20 AM
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I have a 92 cx with a b17 an runing a jdm p72 is that ecu not a good one or is it just not the best?
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 07:21 AM
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its a GSR ecu so, it should be right...
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 07:25 AM
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my friend,who i do all the work on his car, has a 93 vx with a 91 b16a in it. he originally had a 94 p72 on it. he ran a 14.9 1/4 mile, we put a p28 with a skunk2 program on it and now he runs 14.22. no other changes. our guess is the p72 fueled his b16 too much. oh he was also getting horrible gas mileage. while its not great now, it is better. haha and now the p72 is chipped on my h22. and yes you are in limp mode.
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 07:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95cxh22a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my friend,who i do all the work on his car, has a 93 vx with a 91 b16a in it. he originally had a 94 p72 on it. he ran a 14.9 1/4 mile, we put a p28 with a skunk2 program on it and now he runs 14.22. no other changes. our guess is the p72 fueled his b16 too much. oh he was also getting horrible gas mileage. while its not great now, it is better. haha and now the p72 is chipped on my h22. and yes you are in limp mode.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 11:14 AM
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yes it does, and so does crome
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 06:52 AM
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i have a apexi vafc to correct my fuel curve. it works pretty good
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 08:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by highroller420l &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have a apexi vafc to correct my fuel curve. it works pretty good</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why not just use the right ECU???

If you have a B16...run an ECU from a B16. If you're OBD1, go find yourself a P30 out of a JDM Civic SIR or a USDM Del Sol VTEC (or a chipped P28 works too, look into that trade someone offered you)

If you have a B18C...run a p72 (read: GSR ECU!!)

If your B16 was good running on a P72 ECU, Honda wouldn't have made the P30. Or vice-versa
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 08:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lax1185 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Why not just use the right ECU???

If you have a B16...run an ECU from a B16. If you're OBD1, go find yourself a P30 out of a JDM Civic SIR or a USDM Del Sol VTEC (or a chipped P28 works too, look into that trade someone offered you)

If you have a B18C...run a p72 (read: GSR ECU!!)

If your B16 was good running on a P72 ECU, Honda wouldn't have made the P30. Or vice-versa</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea...that is is a good point. If you motor is mild to stock...run the right ecu.
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 08:57 AM
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I have the same problem as him. I have a b18c (jdm gsr obd1 out of a 94-95) and running the ob1 p72 jdm ecu that goes with this motor. its running in limp mode also but with no cel. i even jumped the ecu to check for a code and there was nothing. soemtimes it revs to 6800, sometimes 7500. i have a usdm p72 on the way to try... i think this ecu just might be fucked.

edit- vtec engages and so do the secondaries.
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 09:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiRG EJ1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have the same problem as him. I have a b18c (jdm gsr obd1 out of a 94-95) and running the ob1 p72 jdm ecu that goes with this motor. its running in limp mode also but with no cel. i even jumped the ecu to check for a code and there was nothing. soemtimes it revs to 6800, sometimes 7500. i have a usdm p72 on the way to try... i think this ecu just might be fucked.

edit- vtec engages and so do the secondaries.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Try and reset the ecu?
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 02:18 PM
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Must throw this in:

Redline is when going above said RPM risks engine damage and no longer makes power.

Limiter is when your car will not physically pass a given RPM because the ECU cuts off fuel.

Now that we're on the same page here, continue on.
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