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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 11:01 AM
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I found one thing on this topic in search but it wasnt very helpful so I'm askin. Those of you who have hondata, where did you mount your clutch switch? How? -thanks for any info you can provide me with
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 12:59 PM
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duh idiot, it straps around the steering wheel, and you just push it down with your finger when the clutch is out.....
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 01:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mgags7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">duh idiot, it straps around the steering wheel, and you just push it down with your finger when the clutch is out.....</TD></TR></TABLE>

You're retarded, why bother posting that?


There is a stock clutch switch for the cruise control system that is pushed in when the clutch is engaged, you'll see it if you look up under the dash, just unplug it and take it out and put the hondata one there instead....
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 01:30 PM
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haha, jd3jdm is local to me, a friend, we were joking earlier that if he posted this up someone would tell him some gay answer like mount it to the steering wheel or something.....

and yes i will concede to being retarded.....

the problem we are having is that the hole for the cruise switch is 17mm thread, and the hondata switch is 14mm.....the 17mm nut is welded to the pedal housing.....

so i tried putting a nut on both sides, but this rode the pedal down so far that the clutch began to slip....not good...so we are now looking for solutions....
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 03:05 PM
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This is what I've learned from the same problem:

1. The cruise control switch (on an EK at least) is the exact opposite of what the Hondata interface box looks for. It will think that the clutch pedal is down when it's actually up, and vice versa. The starter inhibitor switch (or w/e you wanna call it) is correct - it still might need adjustment to compensate for freeplay. Wiring it to the CC clutch switch in a Civic would enable the launch control with the clutch up and disable it when the clutch pedal is pressed. You're kinda lookig for the opposite of that

2. Instead of installing the Hondata clutch switch in place of the OE pedal switch, have you considered using the stock switch? This would involve jumping the stock wiring so that you can still start your car or use CC - you'd of course lose the clutch safety switch. You would then wire the stock switch to the Hondata box.

3. The Hondata clutch switch has caused problems for many owners. Don't be surprised if yours doesn't seem to work - check out Hondata.com for all the complaints :/

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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 05:25 PM
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I appreciate the help. Is there anyone out there who has actually put one in a 4th gen prelude though? Because I'd like to find a good way to rig it up so I CAN get it to work otherwise i feel like I've wasted my money with the full throttle shift and launch control upgrade. There has to be a good way to do it out there somewhere. thanks
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 06:24 PM
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I don't know much about it, but if it's just a switch then you should be able to wire the circuit into the normal clutch switch circuit either directly or with a relay. In that case, you wouldn't need to use the hondata switch itself at all. If you can get us a wiring diagram, I'm sure we could figure out how to wire it.
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 07:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BrokeLude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't know much about it, but if it's just a switch then you should be able to wire the circuit into the normal clutch switch circuit either directly or with a relay. In that case, you wouldn't need to use the hondata switch itself at all. If you can get us a wiring diagram, I'm sure we could figure out how to wire it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Can't use a relay b/c feeding 12v to the interface box will fry it. I has to be a simple on/off switch that closes a circuit when the pedal is down.

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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 07:15 PM
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Just an idea but why not run to radio shack and buy a switch?
Mount it where the clutch pedal will engage it.
but I'm just drunk anyway sooo blah .
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 08:51 PM
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Mine is a 4th gen and I did the exact same thing, put a nut on each side of the switch.....you've got to get a "thin" nut for the clutch-side of the switch and thread it all the way to the end of the threads......you might also need to adjust your clutch on the rod to the master to make sure the nut isn't partially engaging your clutch (I also have the annoying habit of resting my foot on the clutch a little, and my full throttle shift limiter was set to like 5000 for a while because i'm stupid and I kept hitting the limiter while driving).....
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 09:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Quick99Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can't use a relay b/c feeding 12v to the interface box will fry it. I has to be a simple on/off switch that closes a circuit when the pedal is down.

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Actually, that's exactly what a relay would be for. You use the 12V to activate the relay, but the circuit that gets opened/closed can be 12V, ground, 5V, a jillion volts, or whatever.

That said, since it already has a switch, I'd say try to use on of those thin nuts or maybe one of those locking washers on the end that fits tight.
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 09:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BrokeLude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Actually, that's exactly what a relay would be for. You use the 12V to activate the relay, but the circuit that gets opened/closed can be 12V, ground, 5V, a jillion volts, or whatever.

That said, since it already has a switch, I'd say try to use on of those thin nuts or maybe one of those locking washers on the end that fits tight.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I realize that; I've installed a couple of relays in my time

I thought you were talking about using the cruise control switch and kind of "flipping" it (so that Hondata sees a closed circuit with the switch off, and open with the switch on). This of course is a big no-no.

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Old Dec 18, 2004 | 06:44 AM
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Or you could splice in a wire from the negative side of the clutch engagement safety switch, run it through a 5V regulator if it's 12V, and then to the Hondata unit.

If you're worried about drawing too many amps, use a small relay and do the same: only use the regulator on the side of the relay going into the Hondata unit.

Just tossin out ideas
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Old Dec 18, 2004 | 07:11 AM
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i think were (me and jd3jdm) are gonna just try it with the thin nut on the outside and adjust the master cylinder rod so it wont ride the clutch down....

but thanks for all the help guys
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Old Dec 18, 2004 | 11:41 PM
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what kind of manifold
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 02:55 AM
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If you're referring to the one I'm selling, it's a USDM H22A IM w/ TB + sensors. PM or email me if you have any questions.

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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 12:05 AM
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sorry im looking for euro R or skunk2
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 07:01 AM
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thanks for jacking the thread guys, the title is hondata clutch switch, not manifold search.....

just to let everyone know i put in the switch yesterday and it went fine.....just a nut on both sides
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