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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 10:57 AM
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Default Cheapest way to achieve 200 whp

Hi, I know you guys might not like this question but I'm gonna post it anyway if one of you wants to answer it.

I would like to know what is the cheapest route to get 200 whp.

Turbo d16
swap (which one)
turboed swap
n/a d16
n/a swap

?!?! I will start my project in a couple of months and I would like to be informed a bit on honda engines and potential etc. My ultimate goal is 200 whp I know it won't come cheap but there must be a specific way that will come in cheaper than others.

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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 10:59 AM
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turbo d16!
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 11:00 AM
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buy an srt4
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 11:01 AM
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d16y7 longblock - 200 bucks
ex intake manifold - 35
hx manifold, used t25 homemade turbo setup, dsm bluetops, uberdata - 1000


learn how to weld.
learn how to tune.
done 250whp easy.
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 11:02 AM
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Search is the way.

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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 11:04 AM
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A turbo D16 with NICE tuned kit will run well under $2K, assuming you have a D16 already...

The only swaps in that range are the B18B and B16, neither come close to 200hp even at the crank. Any swap even with 200 crank hp will run at least double the cost or more.
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 11:04 AM
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Insanely unrelaible d16 with 100 shot (hell you might as well do 150)
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 11:09 AM
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boost
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 11:28 AM
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Turbo D16
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 11:34 AM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...38634
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 11:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BrokeAssWhiteboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...38634</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 11:39 AM
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to answer your question simply, nitrous is always the cheapest way to achieve horsepower. Depending on how you want that 200 hp would be the next logical question (constant like built NA or Boost, or on tap like nitrous when needed).

Doing a search and combining it with common sense will answer nearly every question you will ever have on this site.
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 11:53 AM
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just a note,
from what i've read over the years,

200whp is really the maximum a dseries block is going to handle reliably.

of course there are always exceptions, there are folk who run more than that and
for some reason their motor takes it gladly.

but for most, you really don't want to push any past that point.

great tuning or not, the rods are just too weak.
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 12:40 PM
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drive off a cliff...0-60 in like 3 sec. you only get one shot though.

I took the swap (B18C JDM ITR) in my 94 coupe...I was satisfied for about 6 months running 14.90's -15.00's...then I went turbo
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 12:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Marauder &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">turbo d16!</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 01:15 PM
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turbo d16...i have a setup i might be selling =P
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 01:37 PM
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http://www.TurboD16.com.
Read. Read. And read somemore.
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 02:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syner-G-Racing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">drive off a cliff...0-60 in like 3 sec. you only get one shot though.

I took the swap (B18C JDM ITR) in my 94 coupe...I was satisfied for about 6 months running 14.90's -15.00's...then I went turbo </TD></TR></TABLE>

Ouch you only ran 14.9- 15.0? no wonder you went turbo no what do you run 14.0?
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 02:43 PM
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h22!

but seriously... NAWWZZ YO!
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 02:44 PM
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Cheapest-Nitrous

most reliable-d16 turbo
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 02:47 PM
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yea i was thinking that ITR running 14.9 was totally weak. Or the motor has 200k on it...lol

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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 03:04 PM
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well it was in a coupe, probably an ex.

so it's not going to weigh any less than an actual itr.

and those run in the 14's.

heck the older ones even ran low 15's.
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 03:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dimi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Search is the way.

ยป Search Results

Your search for swap returned 227 results.

ยป Search Results

Your search for turbo returned 36 results.

ยป Search Results

Your search for forced induction returned 10 results.

ยป Search Results

Your search for all motor returned 136 results.</TD></TR></TABLE>


I am so glad people like you jump at the opportunity to help others.
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 04:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just a note,
from what i've read over the years,

200whp is really the maximum a dseries block is going to handle reliably.

of course there are always exceptions, there are folk who run more than that and
for some reason their motor takes it gladly.

but for most, you really don't want to push any past that point.

great tuning or not, the rods are just too weak.</TD></TR></TABLE>

then spend the 500-700 bucks on rods and pistons and then shoot for more hp.
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 04:10 PM
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1,000 direct port shot!!!! yO
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