Why did Honda utilize a cable shifter assembly in k-series transmissions, rather than using a shift-linkage, like in the b-series? What is the key variable examined when it comes to deciding on which style shifter to use?

 

bump for the answer.

 

not sure but this is something I want to know too.

 

Answer here; the daily double.

 

From my experiences from driving the link shifter to the cable, I just think the cable just feels a lot smoother and easier to find gates?

 

It is smoother, but linkage feels more solid. I went from linkage to cable and back to linkage; I like linkage better.

 

also wasn't there somethinga bout cables sending less vibrations to the shifter.

 

maybe since its the RSX they wanted a smoother more luxurious feel? ive driven cable and linkage shifters, and the cable is definately smoother

 

I would think because it's has to been that way because the header is facing a different direction then a B series.

 

Why would the header location have anything to do with deciding on which type of shifter to use?

 

I would say it has something to do with the subframe. If you'ce ever examine the undercarragie of the rsx, you will see that there are a bunch of **** in the way. Having the rods like traditional b-series would be a pain to make, remove, or repair.

 

During the design process of the DC5, Honda would've made room for a linkage shifter if they chose use it. I still wonder though. Thanks for the relplies.

 

I want to bump this from the dead, to see if anyone might have an 'official' technical reason for Honda using the cable shifter -- just out of curiosity.

I have driven my EP for around 2 years now and at first the cable shifter wasn't that big of a deal; but after trying my hand at a couple autox events the cable shifter really feels like a step back for the good folks at Honda. It makes you feel disconnected from the engine, makes shifting feel crunchy and it doesn't feel as fluid/precise as linkages.

The only answer looks to be for 'noise reduction' purposes; but it seems like such extreme measures of noise reduction would be somewhat counterproductive for the EP3 and DC5, which should be considered more sport sub-compact than luxury.

 

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hmm...well.. engine is tilted bit back (looks that way anyways) and also note tranny is switched to other side compared to B series so like PrettyLude said its got different design and so on

 

the main concern imo is the design of tranny and cost. the shifting levers in the tranny shouldbe in line w/ levers and rod coming out of the car if u want levers and make cost less expensive. cables let the tranny designer more freedom and cost LESS to produce and install in assembly line.
a positive shifting mechanism is always better, better feel, faster shifts and more robust design.

 

New Engine, New Tranny they just did what they wanted too

 

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Hmmm...